Thank you for your insight.  Its sincerely appreciated.  

My immune system would most likely have been VERY suppressed, as I have had 
chronic fatigue syndrome for several years.  Other little health problems 
that have been rather annoying, but not life threatening, lupus, arthritis, 
etc.  Wondered if it were a light case of the flu.

The diahreah has not been severe, and I would guess there is little 
likelihood of dehydration at this point.  Have also been drinking  extra 
water, and did have an herbal tea tonight (this is pretty normal though).  We 
do have dandelion and will have a tea with that tomorrow, to provide a little 
help for the liver.

My guess was that it was likely a herximer reaction, and the temperature was 
maybe a result of that.  At present, no indication of an allergic reaction, 
or rash that is different.  Have had a petecki (?) type rash from some 
allergy we have never been able to locate, and it is actually decreased 
tonight.  

Continued tonight with the same 1000 vitamin C and 1000 of MSM (about 10PM), 
and have not had the gas/bloating/diareah that was present this afternoon.  
For my body size, this dose may be a little high.  5-2, 100 lbs.

As for the clay, it would likely be of benefit,  but we do not have it and 
have no experience with it.  

If this is a herximer reaction, great. Maybe something good is happening, and 
I will just have to outlast it!  If this is what it is, how long would it 
last?

Thanks.

suzy    



> Very interesting description Suzy!
>  
> It's the temperature that you are running that gives me pause.  Do you 
> think, in the past, that your immune system has been a) normal or b) 
> supressed?
>  
> Sometimes when the body receives a needed boost, the immune system itself 
> will activate, and begin to eliminate conditions that had pre-existed 
> without a strong immune response.
>  
> However, from the available information it is certainly hard to tell for 
> sure!  If it were me, I'd let the regime continue for between 3 - 8 days.  
> A 102 temperature, while unpleasant, is not really a concern in itself.  If 
> the diahrrea is severe, and has continued for more than 72 hours, the body 
> is in risk of dehydration.  I'd cut all of my doses by half ( accept the 
> vitamin C, which should really be decreased at a slightly slower rate, 
> tapering down over a few days to 50% ).  If I had to lay money on the 
> table, I would say it's probably the vitamin C that is causing the 
> cramping/diarrea.  It is my understanding that long term use of 1+ grams of 
> vitamin C depends on the tolerance of the individual, and the body's need.  
> Always watch your body for a signs of a BRIEF skin rash, usually very 
> localized, to let you know when substances have reached a maximum tolerance 
> level.
>  
> Also keep in mind that when making extreme changes to diet, especially when 
> ingesting pure substances ( such as vitamin C and MSM ) that the body is 
> going to go through changes - not all of which are going to be totally 
> predictable in every case - and it's often helpful and wise to assist the 
> body in key organ functions.  Very gentle herbal teas, home-brewed, are 
> often a great way to do this.  In particular, dandelion root tea is an 
> excellent addition for liver support. Vitamin C in pure form and in large 
> amounts can be very rough on the digestive system.  I know no better way to 
> overcome the unpleasant side effects than the use of bentonite/healing 
> clays, which will also eliminate in rapid order any herximer effect the 
> body experiences with intense therapies. I personally have ingested up to 
> six grams daily of pure vitamin C powder with no unpleasant side effects by 
> waiting about 45 minutes and ingesting a liter or so of clay water ( not 
> recommended if one has not gently adjusted to internal use of clays ).
>  
> The clays added to the diet also help to avoid the possible pitfall of an 
> inbalance of free radicals in the body.  Once the liver begins to process 
> the clays ( this can take a minimum of four weeks of usage, with a maximum 
> dependant directly upon the condition of the liver ), bentonite fixes free 
> oxygen in the blood stream.
>  
> At any rate, these are my thoughts - I certainly hope you are able to 
> determine a working solution!
>  
>  
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