FYI, When Edison invented the telephone, he was actually attempting to construct a device to talk to the "dead." Honest injun!!
----- Original Message ----- From: K E Nolan To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 7:05 AM Subject: CS>Damian's Dubious Devices This is really an off-list topic, but since Damian has been getting quite a few positive responses to his "New forum for ideas" by having it repeatedly aired at this site, a cautionary note, also at this site, seems warranted. First let me say that I would be quite enthusiastic personally in sharing any real advancements achieved in, eg, the "mind machine" area - deeper meditation/relaxation levels etc sounds all good and positive. However it's then quite another matter to start fooling around with notions of ""talking to the dead" (dead, it seems, doesn't mean dead!) or "phoning up higher entities". Using just a few dollars worth of electronics?! If you're into that kind of thing, why not just visit a medium at some seance - they don't need any electronic device. Better still, go the whole hog and join some witchcraft covern - nothing like getting a flying start from experienced helpers! The point is - do you really know who or what you're actually dealing with when venturing into such a realm? Are crop circles, UFO's, hauntings, possession, premonitions, levitation, and all the other supernatural/paraphysical stuff a hodge-podge of unrelated phenomena? Or as any atheist would contend, either hoax or mental delusion. Maybe, but I would venture a more rational view is that much is real but stems from the workings of one or more higher entities having mischievous intent - skilled at deceiving the gullible or too curious. What in biblical parlance are referred to as demons! Hopefully, in the present context these fears are unfounded, and the proposed "contact devices" will prove to be duds. But if not - please think twice about who you may be phoning up for "good" advice. During my time as a fundamentalist Christian, I came across a number of ex-dabblers in the occult who had ongoing mental disturbances stemming from such. Any bible bookstore abounds with material on that topic - and I would suggest not all of it is hype. There is no promoting Christianity or any other religion here, by the way. Yes, religion is supposed to be kept off-list, but then the very notion of being able to speak to the dead automatically carries a religious connotation. This site is about promoting health first and foremost, is it not? Then mental and emotional health is the current, and hopefully brief, issue. I'm disappointed Mike Devour kept silent while all this New Forum stuff was being touted. As stated at the start, some of it sounds good, but as Damian would say - take care. Indeed! regards, Kevin Nolan [email protected]

