Kevin brought up interesting considerations : You are saying , I get the impression that long term CS ingestion is not a problem because in moderate dosage it doesn't do very much! Gallons at a time needed to wipe out the bugs. If so, that in itself is an issue. The general line re CS efficacy has been that CS very efficiently smothers the pathogen via enzymatic inactivation - killing it. You are suggesting that in "normal" dosages (needs defining), it is merely replication that is hindered, and the immune system does the killing. Correct? Then how much CS would someone facing, say pulmonary anthrax, need to use for effective results?
Response: I believe that isolated silver is far more efficient at killing in the lungs that taken orally, because the conditions are closer to a laboratory and "external" setting. The dilution factor is far less significant. Even so, let me describe two different personal experiences, and my conclusions based on them ( of course, two experiences certainly don't qualify as definative evidence!! ): When I first built my oxygen nebulizer, I had a very small bronchial infection, more of an annoyance than a real illness. However, using the CS nebulizer twice in one hour eliminated the condition completely within three hours. The following winter, evidently I had an immune system breakdown. This was probably due to poor diet, lack of sleep, and a great deal of stress. I developed a lung condition that went from non-existant ( symptoms ) to virtual debilitation in about four hours. By that evening, my lower lobes had filled up with so much fluid that I could here myself jiggle when walking. By the next morning, oxygen content to my bloodstream was so low that it was exhausting to hold my arm up for more than about three seconds. My immune system did not respond at all. No fever, no loss of appetite, no coughing response, nothing. Based on my experience of the last 24 hours, I considered myself a walking dead man. My oxygen bottle was empty, but I somehow managed to drive down to a welding supply store and had it filled. The only colloidal silver I had was a HORRENDOUS batch ( there is even a picture of that exact batch on the website at the end of the "simple generator" tutorial ) because I had previously filmed a 1.5 hour run with a nine-volt battery setup so I could make a fast motion video and try to determine the natural cycles involved in basic colloidal silver production. I had added this with a batch I had forgotten about and let run two hours. I added these two eight ounce batches with two eight ounces batches made with a low voltage current controlled device. When I finally used the nebulizer successfully, the results were dramatic and nearly instant. This was not easily accomplished - in fact quite painful. What I had considered a crisis situation was reduced to a very bad chest cold with 30 minutes. Within 24 hours, I was a fully functional being again, but still quite ill. I was concerned because there was still no immune system response in my body. I backed off of nebulizer usage to see how my body would respond. It did not respond well, the condition began to slowly worsen. So, I used the colloidal silver nebulizer between every five and fifteen minutes for three hours straight. THAT evening, my immune system kicked in, and I began to run a high grade fever, accompanied with the body aches and pains one would expect. The fever rose and broke two to three times that night. The next morning, the situation was much improved. It took an additional week to clear everything and bring my body back to normal. It is clear to me that far more colloidal silver is needed when the colloidal silver must directly and independently deal with an illness that is not being held in check by the immune system. One must realize, that if the immune system is totally ineffective at dealing with a pathogan-derived illness, one is not going to be alive for very long. THAT is what we have when considering Anthrax and Smallpox. An infection will reach the bloodstream and/or organs in short order. Kevin writes: Jason, from what you are saying , I get the impression that long term CS ingestion is not a problem because in moderate dosage it doesn't do very much... Response: I don't think it is quite fair to say "doesn't do very much". If you STOP bacterial re-population, and the immune system is functioning properly, the illness will be gone in very short order. If you eliminate only 1% of the pathogens involved in an infection, and the immune system is functioning, that this can easily be enough to "turn the tide" of the illness. It is very hard to imagine that conditions in the body would ever permit more than a 1:1 dilution of CS to "pathogen" anywhere outside of the stomach ( and of course externally ). So what one in effect is doing is creating an environment that is less hospitable to un-checked pathogen growth. Again, I think the best evidence of how this works is considering the intestinal tracts. Even large amounts of colloidal silver taken internally, once the body has adjusted to colloidal silver use, hardly ever noticeably hampers the bacterial balance in the intestines. Why? Because, again, we are dealing in percentages, perhaps even very small percentages. But with the body, these small percentages make all the difference in the world. I don't think the issue with pulmonary anthrax is how much colloidal silver one needs. I think the single defining factor between life and death is how quickly one begins treatment. If one waits too long, I doubt, just like with antibiotics, amount of CS used is going to be irrelevant. I tend to lean toward every fifteen minutes for lung use. Even so, one ounce of colloidal silver will go along way at ten breathes every fifteen minutes. This is where "the people can have the power" so to speak. Rather than running off to the hospital to sit in an emergency room for three hours before a doctor, giving you half-a-glance, diagnoses you with the flu, admits you for observation, later deciding maybe a culture should be done, waiting another three to twelve hours for lab results to come back in.... If you're lucky.... You take that first hour and you hit your lungs hard. ( hopefully, you at this point have some experience using CS / nebulizer ). You drink at least eight ounces of CS, and you bring a supply with you to the hospital, and every five minutes you take a sip and let a constant supply of CS enter the body. Later you can debate for endless hours if it was the antibiotics or the colloidal silver that managed to save your life. The point is, is you gave yourself the maximum chance at survival based on current knowledge, and you did it without limiting your options. You can let the doctors pat themselves on the back for a job well done. Give them a pat yourself. It makes everybody feel good. Send the nurses flowers. We don't have any solid facts. We can only observe variables, and attempt to isolate them. Why does colloidal silver for one person take a simple one ounce dose three times in one hour to wipe out a sore throat within a few hours, while another it can take up to twelve hours with three times the amount of colloidal silver? Why, with some people, is one ounce daily enough to support near perfect health for years on end, while others must consume 8 to 16 ounces daily simply to maintain a state of health? Perhaps it is wise to take a moment to be philosophical about it all. I've been working on a conceptual translation of the Tao Te Ching for years... "Reticence and the Way" 9 - 53 Fill not a vessel, lest it spill with movement. You may temper a sword until it is razor sharp But you cannot preserve the edge. When gold and jade fill your spaces You become unguardable. Claim wealth and titles And you bequeath misfortune upon yourself. Rather, withdraw when your work is finished For that IS the way of heaven. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. 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