Greetings, Herx... Fantastic Job!  Even though I am certain the calculations
are not perfect, I think it is an EXCELLENT tool to assist people getting
more involved with the whole process.

I recently added a document written by Bob Lee on Faraday's equation to the
Colloidal Silver Database Website.  I would love to include your spreadsheet
and examples - it would be a great "checking" tool for those trying to work
through the equations by hand.

http://silverdata.20m.com/howmuchsilverdididrink.html

I will also follow up with a request for use to your private email as well!

Perhaps I will provide both the excel version and provide a javascript
version as well for online calcuations?

Jason

----- Original Message -----
From: "herx" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 10:53 AM
Subject: CS>Answer how to calculate ppm of CS at home


> Hello list, long time listener, first time caller.
>
> I've read many posts here regarding calculating ppm of CS.  I can help
> you figure out the ppm of the CS you're brewing at home, or help you
> determine how long you need to brew in order to get any desired ppm.
>
> There are several ways of knowing the PPM of your homemade CS.  One way
> that doesn't require an expensive PWT meter is to use Faraday's equation
> for electrolytic deposition.  If you know how much current is flowing
> through your electrodes, you can calculate the PPM being produced.  If
> you're not up on electrochemistry, I've written a spreadsheet that will
> calculate it for you.
>
> The spreadsheet (for MS Excel) and instructions for using it can be
> downloaded for free at:
>
> http://briefcase.yahoo.com/cs_share/
>
> In order to use it, you need four things:
>
> 1. A registered copy of Microsoft Excel (version 4.0 or later).
>
> 2. Know the amount of current flowing through your electrodes. You'll
> need to have a multimeter with a scale that reads current in increments
> of one milliamp or less.
>
> 3. Know the amount of time (in minutes) your current flows.
>
> 4. Know the volume of distilled water your electrodes are immersed in.
>
>
> If you don't have constant current (I suspect this applies to most home
> CS brewers), the calculator will let you take periodic current readings,
> and it will calculate the average current for you and give you a running
> total of ppm.  The calculator lets you chose the intervals you'll read
> the current. For gallon jugs, I recommend every 10 minutes. For smaller
> containers, 5 minutes or less is probably better.
>
> One advantage of this method is that it takes into account both the ionic
> and particulate Ag being deposited into the DW, so it should be more
> accurate than methods like PWT meters, which only measure one but not the
> other.
>
> Faraday's equation calculates the mass of a metal (in this case, silver)
> being liberated from the anode, based on the amount of current and the
> duration of current flow.  Once you know the mass of the silver deposited
> into the distilled water, it's a simple matter to calculate the ratio of
> the mass of the Ag to the mass of the DW, and convert this ratio into
> parts per million (ppm).  The spreadsheet I wrote does all this for you.
>
> I'd appreciate feedback from anyone who tries it. I'd also like to hear
> from CS veterans who may not need it themselves but are willing to test
> it and compare its results to the compensated results from their PWT
> meters, or to more sophisticated laboratory methods.  Some folks at the
> Yahoo CS club have tested it and found it to be accurate within an
> acceptable margin of error.
>
> Feedback and questions may be sent to:
> cs_share (at [spam stinks]) yahoo (I hate spam [dot]) com (that's an
> underline character there)
> I can't check this email every day, but I promise all questions will
> receive a reply eventually.  Just give me a few days.
>
> The eScribe Silver List has been a valuable resource to me since I first
> started brewing CS about 6 months ago, and I would like to offer this
> calculator for free as my way of saying thank you.
>
>
> PS: Mike, thanks for the important job you do here.  By the way (from
> another recent thread), the moon doesn't pull at the oceans, it pulls at
> the earth as a whole, and the oceans (tides) sort of slosh about as a
> side effect.  Actually, the earth and moon rotate around a common center
> of gravity which is a few hundred miles from the center of the earth.
> This common center of gravity orbits the sun.  Tidal effects are the
> result of the oceans' inertia - it's similar to water sloshing in a glass
> as you move the glass.  So I don't think that lunar tides have much
> effect on a CS vessel measured in milliliters.  But I'm willing to be
> proven wrong.  It's been done before!
>
> __________________________________________________


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