Hi Bob
Thank you for your excellent report. When you said that I probably had high 
acid content I remembered that the stuff I gave my daughter was from a batch 
that  I rejected because I had run the arc to long and had something like 30 
ppm. Whenever I have something I am not sure of I dump it in a jug and mark it 
for agricultural use only. I assumed that it was simply ionic silver, am 
surprised that I never heard about producing a highly acidic product with the 
arc before.


>>To make HVAC with all of your electrodes wet is the first disaster. My 
>>investigations of two wet (why 4?) was never able to >make more that 9 ppm 
>>(true not hanna stuff) and it would go yellow or dirty and have
silver drop out. So I abandoned that process.

I use four rods to reduce the current per rod to make the smallest particles 
possible, also wetting 1/2 inch of each electrode gives more surface area  
releasing the particles.  I have experimented with different rod lengths wet 
and found that 1/2 inch gave me the best results. But you are correct about the 
ppm, I can not get above 4 ppm on the Hanna meter, and that is because with 
that process I produce  mainly particles. That is why I finish off with the 
arc, I then stop it at 10-12 ppm.
My question to you is: What is the difference between arcing one rod for the 
whole process or arcing 2 rods at the end to top off the ionic content. My goal 
was to increase the particle ratio and I know I have accomplished that. I 
suspect that either method would produce the same amount of nitric acid per rod 
per hr.


>> I will attach a plot of one of my
run made on 11/6/01 and retested yesterday. It is quite revealing.

Sorry, I did not receive that.

>>HVAC ARC when there is a CO2 blanket makes a product that has structured 
>>water and is almost totally ionic. Mine is 98+% ionic  checked by two labs. 
>>The T.E.M. photographs ($75.00 each run) show the size to be 1nm to 8 nm.

How do you create a CO2 blanket?
 Also please explain the difference of NO2 and NO3 products.

I will take you up on your offer to test some samples and will try to get them 
in the mail in about a week.

Thanks again for your helpful input.

Dave