Craig,
The silver atoms leave the anode one at a time as positive silver
ions, that is an atom of silver with one electron missing. They are
accelerated to the cathode by the potential difference between the anode and
the cathode. Somewhere in the process,(I think it is at the boundary layer
interface at the cathode, but I'm guessing), these positive silver ions pick
up their missing electron and combine to form a "clump" of silver of a
certain size. The size of these "clumps" is directly affected by the ratio
of total current to surface area of the anode. For the low voltage process,
this has been shown to be .2 microamps per square millimeter.
High quality distilled water is, by its nature, de-ionized. If the
conductivity is low, that means very few ions.
A yellow-amber color is an indication of a larger particle size
than we now believe to be optimum. Keep in mind, however, that this is only
because of the increase in total surface area of a given ppm with smaller
particles. Frank Key's CS is not yellow-amber, I'm sure he would be
horrified at the thought. It is a brown color, caused by the very high
concentration (ppm) that he achieves.
Frank Key is a fine scientist and has been working is this field
for a long time. He single-handedly changed the focus of this list from
ionic silver to particle (colloidal) silver.
Craig, your comment about your sister and breast cancer gives me
pause for thought about what we champions of CS are doing on this list.
Most of the technical advice that you will receive here comes from people
who are involved in making and selling CS or equipment to make CS. I am not
in that group, at least not yet. I don't think any of us would advise you
to rely on CS to help your sister. Cancer is a disease that strikes fear in
all of us and that is the breeding ground of quackery. You have my best
wishes for your sisters condition but I think you should seek guidance from
conventional allopathic sources in this matter.
Good Luck,
Arnold
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Chamberlin" <[email protected]>
To: "CS" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 7:58 PM
Subject: CS>CS, Current, water, etc. was Testers
> Arnold,
>
> I may be mistaken, but isn't the objective to put small silver particles
> into suspension not ions or is this an issue of the terms being used.
> As I understand it, AG+ isn't very useful once it gets into the stomach,
> but is very useful for topical/sublingual application.
>
> Because I haven't finished figuring out how to make high quality
> colloidal silver (with very little AG+), I have been buying mine from
> Frank Rey (www.purestcolloids.com). Yes, it is expensive, but my sister
> has breast cancer and I am not going to muck about with unknown things
> for her.
>
> Oddly, while everyone says that the yellow-amber color is a sign of AG+,
> that is the color that comes from Frank Rey. And he does have access to
> the equipment (or should I say owns) to test what he makes.
>
> I have been using constant current (have a small circuit board made up)
> method, at very low current levels (0.2uA/square inch of electrode) and
> found that it produces more crud than moving up to .2mA/square inch of
> electrode. Somewhere in here lies a better number. I also believe that
> reversing current direction may be an important part of this, which
> means that both electrodes need to be made of silver.
>
> Also, a chemist friend of mine who has some experience with colloids
> stated emphatically that you need to use de-ionized water, which,
> interestingly enough, is what Frank Rey's cs is made with.
>
> I believe that having de-ionized water is a major factor in getting a
> good colloidal silver.
>
> Going to be testing that here shortly, as soon as I can find de-ionized
> water.
>
> Ciao,
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> Arnold Beland wrote:
> >
> > Craig,
> >
> > .2 is correct. Ivan did some very good work on this in the group some
time
> > ago. Are you still there, Ivan?
> > The idea is to start with very few ions of any type. This will mean,
> > especially with low voltage, that the current will be very low at the
start.
> > Silver ions will be released from the anode and will start on their
journey
> > to the cathode. Again, because the voltage is low, the speed is
relatively
> > low. Using a relatively small spacing between the anode and cathode at
the
> > start can speed up the process. As more silver ions enter the solution,
the
> > effective resistance of the cell will decrease until the voltage drop
across
> > the cell is in the order of 2 volts. At this point, the solution will
have
> > all the ions it can hold and they will be silver ions, not ions formed
by
> > stirring or blowing in air.
> >
> > Arnold
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Craig Chamberlin" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>; "Arnold Beland" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 3:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Testers
> >
> > > Arnold,
> > >
> > > Which value is correct: 0.2 or 2 uA/square mm electrode?
> > >
> > > Also, shouldn't deionized water produce much less ionic silver?
> > >
> > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > Craig Chamberlin
>
>
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