Corbin:

Natural Immunogenics is one of the few companies that we openly endorse, and
there are many reasons for this.

First, they avoid promotional language that can cause harm to others.  They
don't use fear tactics in advertising, and they have strong data to support
their claims ( even if much of it is not publically revealed ).

Second, I've tested their products and found them to be extraordinary.  I
especially recommend the use for nebulizing, as another lister is correct in
that many people cannot afford the costs of using their CS as a daily
supplement.

Third, they are not parasitic.  They understand business in the old school
way.  They don't take the money and run, they are deeply involved in
extraordinary research.  They understand that clinical results are superior
to theories, and work ardently to understand colloidal silver and its
applications in the body.

Fourth, they don't justify away the risks involved in over-using silver,
which puts them high on an ethical scale.

I understand that people talk about air-bubbling and CS production, and
claim that it makes a fine product, which it likely does, but the claim for
a superior product violates common sense and good science: the idea in any
production process is to limit variables, not create them.  Natural
Immunogenics understands the principles of the CS production, and are one of
the few companies out there that, in my opinion, deserve to be making a
profit off of pre-made colloidal silver.

I'm glad Brooks shared about their own results in product testing.
Mesosilver and Sovereign silver compete on the high-end of the pre-made CS
market ( In the US ).  They have distinctly different products.  Both
companies have alot to offer in terms of technical expertise and experience
( and zeal ).  I have not evaluated Mesosilver, as determining what high
quality silver is better for what and when and why is not an easy task to
accomplish without a great deal of statistical data.  I prefer the "ionic"
silver as the benefits of silver ions have been firmly established, even if
the mechanisms of biological delivery are still in doubt.

How clinically "better" Natural Immunogenics silver is as compared with the
SG6 or 7 is unknown.  Trem ranks right up their with 'Ole Bob's best CS...
I've seen data on both, and I'm aware of the results of anti-bacterial
comparison studies conducted with each.

How any of this translates inside the body is truly unknown.  Keep in mind,
all of this said, I'm still an advocate for CS made with four nines,
although I see the nines as an emergency measure ( and an easy method ), and
as a stepping stone to more refined methods of production.

I personally maintain a great interest in further research on highly
particulate colloidal silver...  But mild silver protein has met its match
many times over against isolated silver; greater effectiveness against
pathogens with far lower concentrations of actual silver.

I see the point about MSP used externally being beneficial, due not to the
quality of the silver but to the high concentration and the nature of
treating a condition in external environment.

I'm not aware of any data that suggests that silver ions or particles,
unassisted, can penetrate normal skin tissue; however, considering damaged
tissue, burned tissue, or infected tissue, "sizing" may matter.

Jason



----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 12:25 PM
Subject: CS>Sovereign Silver Vs the Rest


> Hi
>
>
> I recently talked with the president of Sovereign
> Silver, and we had a lenghtly conversation concerning
> his product versas all the rest out there.  First I
> talked with him about Mild silver protein, and was
> informed, even though i have been having good results
> using it for a week, that long term use would more
> than likely lead to a build up in  your tissues
> causing the coloring agyria.  2nd I also addressed the
> issue, an I am sure many on here will disagree, that
> their product is 10-40 times better than most
> home-made collodial silver products that manly use the
> constant current generators, due to the larger
> particle size and the fact that AIR is contaminating
> your process when you make it in a bottle.  He
> informed me that they use water that is made in the
> lab, under a special high purity process, and then the
> water is covered with argon gas, to elimate any
> reactions such as silver oxides that might be produced
> from being exposed to Co2, O2, N2 etc.  He told me
> they have compared there product to about 75 other
> types of colloidal silver and NONE of them stood up to
> theres, based on test results with variuos pathogens,
> at various levels of ppm.  I did suggest however that
> it doesnt neccesarrily mean that constant current
> devices are harmful in any way, and that you do get a
> product produced even though it has silver oxides and
> and a larger particle size, and is a much less
> inferior product, one could still use ift for extreme
> cases such as food posinioing or external
> applications.  I also addressed the issue with the
> silver-100 product that uses binding agents to the
> silver ions.  There response was that this binding
> process lowers the energetic energy level of the
> silver ion, thus making it less effective and that the
> ph of this complex is acidic and does not match the ph
> of the human body like their product does.  Thus the
> body must first convert this silver-100 complex into
> something else which has not been thourghly tested,
> and at a different ph which is accceptable to the
> body.  My response was that I have had 100% results
> using silver-100 spray as an external applicant for
> killing herpes, yeasts, etc.(this is my own testimony
> with the product).  So the jist of it is that there is
> no other product in the world that has a smaller
> particle size  than .0006 mircons and anything smaller
> would be impossible due to the size of the silver
> atom(ion?) itself, not sure which one he stated.  The
> catch of course is you are paying about 30 bucks for a
> 4 oz bottle. where as if you make it yourself using a
> constant current genertor such a SG6 you can make a
> lot more at about the same ppm, BUT WITH ADDED CRAP
> from the reactions with the silver and the air, and
> are not getting an effeciantly sized silver ion to be
> able to penetrate the cell membrane.  However other
> scientist  have told me that the silver ion cannot
> penetrate the cell wall, so I am not sure if this is
> totally proven to be true or not.
>
> Anyone who you like to support these findings or fight
> it please post!
>
>
> Sincerly
> Corbin
>
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