Thanks again. I think this clears up a lot of questions and makes your viewpoint clear. If I understand the essence of your postings, the LVDC ionic/particulate brews many of us experiment with are, in your view, not a likely source of argyria. You also believe that particles are the agent of beneficial effects in vivo, but that our home brews are effective insofar as they contain some particles. If I have not gotten that right please clarify for the benefit of other listers. If that is correct, perhaps it clears things up a bit.
Thanks again. JBB Frank Key wrote: > > JBB wrote: > > > Thanks for the reply. I am a wee bit confused, though, as I had thought > > that one claimed advantage of the particulate silver was a reduced risk > > of argyria, which I thought you had claimed to be a concern after silver > > ions turn to silver chloride. Perhaps I misunderstood something. > > > > JBB > > It is true that nanometer silver particles will not cause argyria. > > Neither will low level concentrations of ionic silver produced by > electrolysis in pure water. The ionic silver will still form silver chloride > when ingested but not enough to pose a risk of argyria. > > If salts are added to the water to provide a companion anion, then higher > concentrations of ionic silver may be produced which could potentially > increase the risk of argyria. > > frank key > > > > > > > Frank Key wrote: > > > > > > Jonathan wrote: > > > > > > > I think the important question appears here: if silver ions form > silver > > > > chloride in vivo, what is the effect of the silver chorlide? I have > > > > never seen any answer to this question, which I have posed to Mr. Key > in > > > > personal e-mail correspondence. > > > > > > > > Mr. Key was kind enough to offer me, a non-scientist, a good > experiment > > > > to see for myself that he is correct about chloride -- make a batch of > > > > ionic/CS and add ordinary table salt. Observe the clouds of silver > > > > chloride that form. > > > > > > > > My question in reply, also yet to be answered, is this: could not > > > > ordinary users make fine particulate CS simply by using a good LVDC > > > > generator, then adding a high quality salt, and separating the silver > > > > chloride from the particles? I still wonder whether this could be > > > > done. If so, low-cost particulate CS could be made at low cost by > > > > laypersons, just as not the ionic/CS mixture can be made. > > > > > > Adding salt to a solution consisting of silver ions and some silver > > > particles will > > > cause the silver ions to precipitate out as silver chloride. If left to > > > settle for a few days > > > the silver chloride will eventually settle to the bottom. The remaining > > > liquid could > > > be decanted off the top leaving the silver chloride behind. The liquid > would > > > no longer > > > contain silver ions, only silver particles along with sodium ions and > > > chloride ions in the > > > liquid. > > > > > > It is not clear what the benefit would be from doing this. The silver > ions > > > in home > > > brewed ionic silver solutions are low enough in concentration that they > do > > > not pose > > > an argyria risk. This would result in approximately the same, or > slightly > > > less, > > > concentration of silver particles than you started with. > > > > > > frank key > > > > > > > I remain agnostic on the whole matter given the absence of answers to > > > > these questions. I hope some full-time researchers can help clarify > > > > this. > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
