A modestly priced ozonizer is availalbe from www.sota.com. I think these are honest and reputable people and recommend looking at their site. I do not have an ozonizer myself but may when the budget permits. (Price is 260 dollars).
JBB Harvey Norris wrote: > > --- Ode Coyote <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Persnally, I wouldn't recommend ozonating your > > CS. It will probably > > oxidize the ions and make the CS come out brown or > > black. Silver oxides > > are pretty much inert. > > ken > > > > At 01:43 PM 4/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: > > >check this website out. it shows a ozonizer > > generator. i just have to find > > >out how to make one or buy one. i remember reading > > about someone on this > > >list who has an ozonizer. do you think you can help > > me? > > > > > > > > > ><http://www.waronaids.com/Becks-Ozone-Diag.asp>http://www.waronaids.com/Becks-Ozone-Diag.asp > Hydrogen Peroxide & Ozone is a $4.00 pamplet I picked > up at a health store states the following; > Note that ozone has a half life of about 45 minutes so > you cannot make up a days supply in advance. > The Becks ozone URL you supplied probably falls under > that category. Ozone can be created also by a high > voltage arc. However with all the talk about nitrous > oxides being formed by arcs, I dont see why that could > be considered a good method for making ozone to be > bubbled through water. > > A different method of creating ozone is to use a ozone > bulb. You can smell the ozone coming off the bulb. But > the bulb emits UV harmful to the eye. It is a UV bulb > that uses a quartz crystal as the plasma container so > that the UV will pass through that material. > (apparently ordinary glass stops UV?) > > The Ellis water device uses such a bulb, where here > are his URL's > http://www.johnellis.com/ > http://www.johnellis.com/fs_main.htm > > Ellis does not tell you his method or that he uses > this bulb in his process, but he claims his > "energized" water lasts for quite a long time. After > reading the ozone pamplet, I became dubious. But there > is also another aspect here. Ellis uses the bulb in an > enclosed chamber above where steam goes through the > distilled water tube. In other words he is not > specifically ozonating water, he is ozonating the > steam that becomes distilled water. ( Ellis doesnt > tell you that either) So how can he state his ozonated > water lasts so long? Well the water molecule has what > is called a bonding angle of the two hydrogen > molecules. He claims that his water gets an increased > phase angle. Perhaps it is possible that condensing > steam going through a strong UV light might recondense > with a changed bonding angle. Then the ozone may > eventually evaporate out, but the ozone bulb has > changed the bonding angle of the water. However other > people also say that structured water like this can be > obtained by merely funnelling water through a magnetic > field. Still others claim that a North magnetic pole > is beneficial. This same ozone pamplet claims the > following; > "Place a gallon of ozonated water on the north pole, > (negative polarity) side of a magnet. Let it sit for > about 8 hours at room temp, then refrigerate it. The > ozone converts to oxygen which remains in the water. > The water aquires a smooth and pleasant taste. The > magnetic field alters the structure of the water so > the cells absorb it rapidly and it is quickly excreted > by the kidneys" > > Again I was dubious. If I cant verify something by > testing, it seems like hearsay. However last summer I > used a magnet and funnel for a 100 gallon tank I used > for garden irrigation. Afterwards a DC voltage could > be read by meter from the water, and this remained for > many days. A much smaller dc voltage is also recorded > from energizing this Ellis water by a siphon hose > passing it through neodymiums to a tub holding the > magnetised water... Here are some teslafy jpegs that > may not be accesible to non yahoo email members but I > include them nevertheless. > > DC Voltage Measurement of Water Vortex with ceramic > magnets across funnel cone opening showing .64 DC > volts potential between top and bottom of container. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/WAT/Dsc00253.jpg > > DC Voltage Measurement Of .58 volts on Filled Tank, > this voltage stayed for many days, indicating the > water might somehow hold a stored charge. > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/WAT/Dsc00254.jpg > > Ellis device; Ozone Bulb Removed From Chamber > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/WAT/Dsc00248.jpg > > This ellis machine belongs to my brother, so I asked > him to bring me some distilled water from the machine. > He made it from his well water. The distilled was > inferior, almost twice as conductive as Wallmarts. > However mistakes can be made making distilled from his > machine, so I asked him to bring it over, and making > the distilled from city tap water I found it to be > very clean, giving conductivity readings better than > Wallmarts distilled. > > I was able to make readings of capacity from the ellis > water, ( insulated plate method) that showed his water > was about 1 to 2 % more capacitive then our city > water. Better models with higher capacity and reduced > plate distances to show and test for capacity showed a > 5 to 7 % difference. So who knows perhaps this phase > angle business is legitimate. Here is some material on > the ellis machine I have formerly sent to other > discussion groups; > > I was using his distilled ozonated water to make > colloidal silver water with higher voltage AC (60 - > 80 volts)some while ago, but I really didnt know what > I was doing then, as low voltage DC is the way to go. > It is easy > for mistakes to happen when using the ellis machine to > produce distilled water, for if a vapor lock developes > on the line that also dispenses what he calls > energized tap water, then the steam chamber will flood > and you end up with tap water getting mixed with your > distilled water, and this is a real no go, if you then > make CS with that water, since city water has clorine > in it, and one must not have any chlorine products in > CS, or it becomes silver chloride, (I think). Anyways > I havent been able to investigate his product again, > till I borrow my brothers machine again. I make about > 30 gallons when I borrow the machine, mixing both tap > and distilled products together, after making enough > distilled to experiment with, and I drink the mixed > water everyday. BUT I think his claims are a little > overblown. I think he does achieve what they call a > phase angle shift in the water molecule, but this is > practically impossible for an amateur like myself to > measure. I did get to the point where I seemed to be > able to measure an increased capacity with his water. > > I would not advise the purchase of this machine. > (very expensive at 1700 dollars) > Instead I would recomend obtaining an Ozone bulb, and > rigging up your own kitchen powered steam distillery, > passing the steam over a bulb chamber. It is dangerous > to look at these bulbs I have been told, they emit > some kind of arc light or something, ( Ultraviolet > range?) Incidentally Ellis says NOTHING about his > ozone bulb process at his site, or otherwise folks > might just obtain the bulb themselves and save over a > 1000 dollars by making a homemade distillery process. > > I have refrained from making CS from his distilled > water, but later if any tests show significant > differences, I will note them to list. I have made it > a couple of times that way with low voltage DC, and > didnt note any difference right away. I did notice > that the AC method, ( which is useless and dangerous > anyways) made a blackish tint on the coin, vs the Gray > tint aquired with Wallmart DW. > > To conclude, I see nothing wrong with making the CS > over a North magnetic pole, since other commentators > have said this causes a water structure change. Since > the 1.22 ma current limited process I use takes 8 to > 10 hours to obtain a quadrupling of initially measured > current by battery test,and also the fact that I am > now making it with multiple cells in parallel, I think > I might try adding a ordinary blacklight on the > process, to mimic the UV bulb that ellis uses. > Recently I went to an even longer process of some 12 > hours, with the current limited to a even smaller > value of 1.08 ma. I was pleasantly surprised to find > that the water could have the same conductivity, yet > not appear so much with the white/grey cloudiness, in > fact it seemed almost clear, and yet quite conductive! > This seems to be indicative of a smaller colloid > size, from what I ascertain from > http://www.silvergen.com/ppm.htm > > Thanx for clueing me into this great site folks, as I > plan to order a PWT from them tommorrow. > > Sincerely Experimental > HDN > > > > ===== > Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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