I would like to respond to both Catherine and Tony on this versed thread. First of all, Catherine.....over the period of time that you have been on this list, I have read your posts and gained MUCH respect for you, your philosophies, and your thinking. The opinions that you express have always held a significant degree of weight (in my opinion). I think that we may be in agreement on this topic more than you suspect. I sometimes find it shocking myself how flipantly medications are given, and advice is given for them. I have spent over 3 years inpatient at a hospital with my daughter receiving treatments to save her fragile life. Although I persue nutrition and supplements and at times literally fight with her teams of specialists to stay away from certain treatments.........unfortunately medications like versed are so commonly used on a specialized surgical floor, that I fear even I have become immune to the significance of the risks. Pretty scary, actually. As I have said, we learned years ago that my daughter can't use versed so have been forced (albeit profitably) to raise her to expect and cope with fear and uncomfortable medical situations. She has strength, determination, and will beyond her years......... and at the marval of those around her.
That said, I would like to analyze (if I may) my own reason for so non-chalantly suggesting versed. Aside from the desensitization I have received at being surrounded by it for so many years.........I think I was concerned about Sharon not getting testing done to find a solution........for fear of her daughter experiencing something unpleasant. After a 3 year battle with urinary tract infections that can't seem to be corrected, I'm concerned about the long term implications of not finding out why. It could very easily turn out to be something very easy to fix, but unfixed could carry very significant long term reprecussions. The potential risks of the unknown (should the unknown turn out to be reflux or the like) far outweigh the controlled and competent administration of versed (one time) IF that's going to make the difference between whether or not she would be willing to put her daughter through any invasive testing. Sharon if you are reading this, please correct me, but I have the impression that the fear of putting your daughter through invasive testing has been what has kept you from pursuing any more answers for the past 3 years. And, on that note, please understand that I KNOW all the fears and questions that come with having to make a marked decision to do something to your child that you know will make her uncomfortable and scared. I know all to well the heart-wrench that brings........and the struggle with the guilt as you watch it happen.......wondering if you made the right decision.......yet if you hadn't..........still wondering if something bad might happen if you didn't have her tested. Sometimes there are no right answers, and you feel like you can't win either way, and I suspect that might be what has kept you from testing for so long. It's sometimes so hard to express your words in an email in a way that portrays your true heart. Please don't misunderstand me and think that I am saying that you made any poor decisions in choosing to wait. On the contrary.........I see a mother who has become a firm advocate for her daughter........fought the doctors when they were clearly jumping the gun........and sought out many alternatives and solutions that could have solved the problem at hand. I applaud you for that. I personally know that battle.......and it's far from easy. It appears though that at present you have attempted all options and alternatives and now it's time to get some definitive answers........and that's a really tough place to be. I know it all too well. Please know that my emails to you and the list are heart-felt.......with mounds of understanding. (even when I'm wrong.........my heart is in the right place ~:-}) <deep breath> That said, I want to move on to Tony's suggestion in using Atarax. Gosh........I forgot about that stuff. We actually use that med as an anti-itch sedation for my daughter's liver failure. (well we did before we started to drain her bile daily to relieve the itching....what a PROFOUND discovery......yet ANOTHER thing I fought about and did my homework on to discover). Atarax sure is a sedator....and yes, it can be used as a premed. Atarax basically puts them to sleep and "snows" them.........where as with versed..........they are awake and talking to you and silly.........but don't remember a thing. Ah.......and yes........Catherine........about your statement saying that it might be difficult to KNOW you are going to experience something and then not remember it. I can vouch for that personally. I was given versed once. In an emergency situation........after I gave birth to my son..........and of all the things in my life......I am MOST concerned (to this day) that I can't remember a thing that happened during that time.........and I had doctors in control of my care.......and I don't trust them to always make the right decisions. Fortunately Sharon seems to be a wonderful advocate for her daughter.....and wouldn't let anything bad happen to her at their hands. ok, ok.........I have much to do today..........and must run.......I hope in my hurry, I have accurately portrayed my heart about this matter........ God bless, Christiane ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Moody" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 6:47 AM Subject: Re: CS>Catherine..Re: Versed - subtitled - I'd Rather Light My Head On Fire > Hi Christiane, > UCB, United Chemists of Belgium make Aterax (Hydroxyzine 2HCl )which I have > been told is excellent as a premed. And it is not habit or dependency > forming. Speak to the Anesthetist about it. > > If you can get into a relatively calm frame of mind and hold her feet for a > few minutes every now and then. should calm her. > > EFT works wonders. http://www.emofree.com/freestuff.htm > > Tony > > John Osowiecki wrote: > > Catherine, > > > > > > Are you familiar with any supplements that can safely be used to calm before > > a procedure like this, without causing drug interactions with the dyes they > > use for a VCUG? My biggest concern about using something like that is that > > the doctors and anesthesiologists aren't familiar with it, and wouldn't know > > how to treat should something interact or cause a problem. > > > > > > Any suggestions for feeling well rested on little sleep???? ~:-} > > > > Have a wonderful day, > > God Bless, > > Christiane > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
