--- Mike Monett <[email protected]> wrote: > RE: CS>ozone machines > > Chuck, > > Anyone who studies engineering starts with the > International System > of Units, or SI-Units. There are seven SI base > units and 22 derived > units, with very strict rules of usage: > > http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/ > > The term "amperage" is not an engineering term. > It is sometimes > found in fuse and circuit breaker charts written > by stock clerks. > > It is often found in technobabble, such as the > posts submitted by > Harvey. > > In order for his stories on making cs to be > credible, others have to > be able to duplicate his results.
You will not repicate thes results without substantial investments. Your disbelieve will now be abscounded. I also work for a living and dont always have the time to respond to petty inqueries. I do this thing as a heritage, not for a living...., at least give one the time to get home from work before declaring a "non reponce!!!! I have requested > that he supply me > with engineering data on his setup, as shown in > the following list: > > 1. What is the inductance of L1 and L2. 60 henries, before the coils are brought into mutual inductance. This gives 20,000 ohms impedancece individually. > > 2. What is the coil diameter. 5 inches ID of 20,000 winds 23 gauge wire, some 9 miles of wire on each coil. > > 3. What is the coil thickness. Several inches. 13 inch length coils Here I am drawing an arc from from flux cap design, If you imagine I have fabricated this info.... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/FC/Dsc00233.jpg In fact here you can see 3 of these coils and the dimensions, and that particular work is not even negotiated from your man made 60 hz power sources, instead, it is made from my own alternator AC at 480 hz from AC converted car alternators. Each of these coils cost over 500 dollars, and I have experimented with the relationships involved self manufactured 3 phase: whereby resonances can be "interphased" in spacings. Essentially this is why over 180 members follow my research, because I am doing things that have not been "done before". So I am no "hillbilly electrical engineer" as you would imply, and I know precisely what I am talking about. > 4. How many turns of wire are needed. 20,000 winds > > 5. What gauge of wire is used. 23 gauge > > 6. What is the dc resistance of the coil. 1000 ohms > > 7. What is the value of C1 and C2. .12 microfarad. > > 8. What is the circuit Q. 15 for each coil at 60 hz > > 9. What is the input current from the variac. 10 volts for the cited ~ 1ma across silver electrodes, on a 12 hr batch. Current Input was measured at .35 ma for an input at .55 ma, establishing 1 ma on a sample already exposed for an hour as an example. This is resonant rise of amperage principle, with intervening diodes to convert to DC. > > 10. What is the circulating current at resonance. On a dead short the q is 10, meaning that .5 ma will allow 5 ma circulation in tank, however the CS cell never should approximate those things. This only means the input will not approach what is shown with a dead short. THE DEAD SHORT IS THE C.L. used for start of batch. > > 11. What is the voltage across the tank at > resonance. For a 1 ma C.L.( current limited): a 10 volt input from variac is commonly used. Losses are inherent with many cells in parallel. > > 12. What is the impedance of the colloidal silver > cell. Comparable to the internal impedance of the process used to current limit it. > > 13. How much does the circuit Q change as the ions > enter solution. I would have to have an extra AC meter on the input itself to give definitive answer here. The more conductive the soltuion becomes, the higher the q factor as as tank. To give an understanding here, initially the output voltage is greater than the source, and this is when the circuit functions as voltage gain. On finish it functions as amperage gain, but at finish the output voltage is lesser than that inputed. Since the power input for CS solutions is somewhat irrelative, I have no answer here at the present time. > 14. How are you introducing current from the > variac. By direct line connection to to coils and caps on either side of the CS cell. > 15. How are you extracting current from the tank. By the midpoint pathway of a figure 8 tank circuit: something I myself discovered and promoted as a "binary" resonant tank. It is a circuit hybrid of 180 phased series resonances that only becomes the figure 8 tank when the resistances between the resonances become low enough to approximate the internal impedances of the sourcings. > However, I have already shown his circuit to > be impossible to > construct: Please show me how what you consider I have already brought into reality to be so Impossible????? > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59221.html > > And I invite anyone to try and duplicate his > results. If it is not > possible to do so, then his stories must be > considered fabrications. A fabrication is not necessary, the truth will set you free. > A bit of wire and some capacitors is all that is > needed. According to your self reinforced delusion... > Or a successful plot in SPICE. > > It will never happen. Not in your prescription. > > Best Regards, > > Mike Monett My refutation is done. Goodbye, I have wasted enough of my time................................. HDN Hope you can refute that one! ===== Tesla Research Group; Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
