Hi Mike; I owe you an apology for being rude myself - mea culpa! However
the length of Harve's posts is no measure of his facility in English,
nor in techno-argot, quite the contrary. I will do my best to fumble
through the circuitry and offer what I can, but I am neither able to
reproduce the constructions such as coils nor to devote much expertise to it.
I would suggest that a program using spice will be limited by the
conceptual limits built into it, and other "anomalous" results would simply
not appear; this is neither more nor less than the theoretical - or
imaginative - constructions built into any explanatory paradigm.
At 07:59 PM 5/21/03 -0400, you wrote:
RE: CS>ozone machine
From: Malcolm Stebbins
Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 12:00:34
> Mike; How about you repeat all of your messages to Harvey in
> grammatically and technically correct Russian?? Seems no more than
> fair. Then you might also adopt a less supercilious stance - in
> lieu of an outright apology for rudeness.
> Malcolm
Thanks, Malcolm. Harvey speaks pretty good English, and has no
trouble posting long dissertations on his process. But we still
don't know if this circuit is the one he is using:
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59282.html
The only information Harvey posted on his process was contained in
this post
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59183.html
If you think this diagram
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/BRS/BRT.jpg
is the same as this one
http://www3.sympatico.ca/add.automation/misc/2eb56731.gif
then please let me know. If it is, then in this application it can
be replaced by a single resistor.
After looking at Harvey's diagram, I also had to change my original
guess at the way his circuit operated. It turns out I was right in
the first place:
"Since the variac is in series with the tank, the only way you
could obtain a resonance effect would be to take the voltage
across the tank, or in parallel with L1 and C1. However, your
description is the cell is also in series with the tank."
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59221.html
Harvey also changed the description of several key points after I
asked for detailed information. The impedance dropped from around
40,000 ohms to 20,000 ohms, which is more in line with reality.
There is no rectifier used in my analysis.
Claiming high cost is a typical method Tesla followers have of
dissuading people to try to duplicate their process:
"The GREAT expenses here are that large induction coils, employing
some 40,000 ohms impedance are on either side of the CS cell, but
with capacities having identical impedances in series, this serves
to regulate the voltage in such a way as to continually lower it
to the lowest possible value that the C.L. setting will provide."
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59183.html
The cost of the coils is greatly exaggerated. It is not $500 as he
claims. It might be closer to $25.00. It is not unusual for
advocates of Tesla technology to do this, nor is it unusual for them
to ascribe unrelated effects, such as the phase of the moon, to the
outcome of a process. Harvey did this often. Here's one example
"and I plan another batch tonight durring the almost full moon"
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m59087.html
The confusing information Harvey provided, and the lack of a clear
description of his circuit led me to believe he could not have built
a machine using the process he described, and that he was misleading
the members of this group on his results.
We still don't know if my guess at his circuit is accurate. I think
it is. But there is no reason to post results on a process without
including the full details needed to duplicate the process.
And it should not require guessing.
Best Regards,
Mike Monett
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