Bingo! More later on alternatives. Docs are not total fools, but they often have a more mechanistic approach than sits well with patients.
Malcolm

At 10:23 AM 6/3/03 -0700, you wrote:

Thank you Catherine.

I brought up with the DR that Versed had a black box FDA warning, I remembererd that much from our discussion. His response was, "well we've used it a lot with pediatrics patients ( he's a Pediatric Urologist ) and we've had no problems with it. Those warnings apply to older patients". I didn't have a rebuttal for that since I didn't have all the facts with me. Another thing that bothers me is that he still wants to do this test. I am not sure what it will tell him "for sure". Since he "thinks" it is reflux, the treatment will either be to keep her on low dose anitbiotics till she outgrows it, or to surgically correct it. I suppose the test will tell him whether he needs to surgically correct it??! He admitted that children this age who don't have any sedation the first time round with the procedure would need it the second time since the memories would be so bad they would be unable to stand it. Sheesh. Um, why do we have to do this more than once?? I was not thinking real clearly in the office or I would have done more questioning...

I am pretty much at the end of the rope with this. He says that if a child is going to outgrow it they will likely do so by the time they are five or six but he has kep kids on low dose antibiotics till they are eight before. I suspect this is all a preamble to surgery... And I was freaked out to find out about the kidney damage since to my knowledge she never has had a fever with the bladder infections. I guess I was really hoping that the ultrasound would provide him with enough info.

Do you have any info on alternatives? I asked about it but he didn't seem to want to go down that road, his comments were directed towards either versed or nothing. I am sooo frustrated sight now. I relaly wish I could figure out how to deliver CS to the appropriate spot so that it would work for her. I tried sitting her in a tub spiked with CS which seemed to have no effect. Taking it doesn't seem to help.

There must be some treatment protocol that we have missed....somewhere out there.


Dear Sharon,


It's Versed..  This is the one we were talking about.

  I think perhaps the assumption that the child needs to be so
heavily sedated is a wrong one. Talking with her beforehand
should do the trick to allow a much lighter, safer form of
anesthesia to be given.

The thing that worries me is that she is a very sensitive child. When a classmate of hers died she is the only kid who cried, she remembers things forver. She still remembers our trip to france when she was two. This is exactly the sort of thing she would remember for a loooong time to come.

  I still think it's much  more traumatizing in the longrun to be in the
hospital and not be aboe to recall what  happened to you while being there.

http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/versedinj.htm


    It's seldom that medical professionals think for themselves.  Someone
does something, it gets written up in a medical journal, everyone begins
doing it.

  Giving Versed as an anesthetic-type aid is equivalent to feeding blowfish
to someone because they are hungry.  There are plenty of other things one
could eat besides blowfish.
There are safer things to use than Versed.

Where can I find info on them?
Thanks Catherine.


Regards,
Catherine


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