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Re: CS>$$$ perpectives
From: Trem
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 16:22:08

  > Hi Mike,

  > I've been  hearing you knock flat silver electrodes for  some time
  > now and think it's about time to say something. I'm SilverGen. Our
  > generators do NOT make large particles nor do they EVER produce CS
  > that turns yellow. Particle size is .001 to .005 microns. See

  > http://www.silvergen.com/toppage2.htm

  > for visual evidence of particle size.

  > You may  be correct in stating that the edges  release  the silver
  > more quickly  than  the surface but the  facts  are  the facts....
  > current limiting  and circulation of the  water  during production
  > using large  surface  area equals small particles as  long  as one
  > stays under  2  ma./square  inch. I hear  of  many  people getting
  > yellow CS  using other generators that use round wire  so  you may
  > want to rethink your argument.

  > Regards,

  > Trem Williams
  > www.silvergen.com

  Hi Trem,

  Nice to  hear from you. Of course you can use flat electrodes  - you
  just have  to reduce the current. This means it will be  slower than
  an equivalent system using round wires and the same wetted area.

  I used  to  run  at 1.4 mA per square inch,  and  it  usually turned
  yellow or black after a few days when I tried to make high ppm cs. I
  had a low-level residual Shingles infection, and the cs made at this
  current had no effect.

  However, reducing  the  current density to 80 to  100  microamps per
  square inch  produces very strong and very clear cs.  The  rods stay
  clean, which indicates very little is wasted making black sludge. It
  doesn't turn yellow.

  The cs made with this current density killed the Shingles infection.
  The scabs fell off several days later, and have not returned.

  I now only need to take a mouthful every three or four days, instead
  of drinking 8 oz each day as I did before. This helps  the digestion
  a great  deal,  since  much less enters the  intestine  to  kill the
  friendlies.

  I use  12 ga folded into a "W" to increase the  surface  area, which
  allows proportionally higher current and shortens the run time.

  I have  done a few runs at higher currents that do turn  yellow with
  the same total number of Coulombs. So I believe there is  a critical
  current density somewhere between 100 and perhaps 1,000 uA/sq in.

  So the  effect  of  flat plates is you  reach  the  critical current
  density sooner than with round wire, since the current is  higher at
  the edges.

  With either method, if you are making black sludge and have to clean
  the rods, reduce the current and increase the brew time.

  I tried  three methods of stirring, and it helps reduce  the sludge.
  But it had no effect on the Shingles. Low current is the only thing
  that worked.

  The other  problem  with flat plates is  keeping  them  straight and
  aligned. 12 ga wire is quite stiff, so it holds alignment very well.
  Thin sheet is very difficult to keep flat and straight.

  Another problem is simple contamination. Systems that leave the rods
  loose means they will lay flat. I once got very ill after  getting a
  drop of something on the rods. I never found where it came from.

  With 12 ga wire, you can bolt the rods to a plastic lid.  This keeps
  them aligned,  and you can set the lid upside-down on  a  table with
  the rods  sticking  in  the air while you  are  emptying  the  cs to
  another container.  So  you never have to touch the  rods  or handle
  them.

  Flat is OK. Round is better.

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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