Mike,

There is no mention of a lot of black crud on our website.  What is said is
this.  "The particles of elemental silver which are continually being
removed from the self cleaning electrodes during production will normally
fall to the bottom of the vessel after the pump is turned off.  Once those
particles have settled, you may start the draining process."  I call this
truth in advertising.  I do not want to have anyone think there is no
residue since in fact there is.  But it is an inconsequential amount.

I test each SG7 individually by running a 1 1/2 gallon batch to assure the
unit works properly before shipment.  I also produce a batch every day or so
to use around our household and also produce and give away as much as
possible locally to those needing it.  I conservatively estimate at least
500 gallons have been made using the test electrode which still looks
original as far as shape is concerned.  That is the edges of the electrodes
(4) are not thin and sharp as you keep stating will be the fact.  They
started out at .013 inches and they are still that thickness as best I can
measure.
I have never cleaned the vessel either so I am able to easily see what is in
the
bottom of the vessel.  There are a few metallic sparkling particles in the
bottom and the container is discolored gray and has a ring around the upper
part resembling a dark bathtub ring.  The main purpose of polarity reversal
is to even the deterioration and to clean any oxide or elemental silver that
is attracted to the cathodes during the half cycles.  Admittedly there is
some oxide as evidenced by the gray vessel but to say there would be a waste
of silver by allowing current density to be high enough to allow it is about
as ridiculous an argument as I can think of.  It's comparable to picking a
small amount of fly poop out of the pepper.  Who cares!  It is
inconsequential.  I have never cleaned the vessel since any heavy particles
are in the bottom and do not drain out and any oxide which is on the sides
and bottom does not move either.  If I were to scrape it all out I doubt
there would be enough to easily measure.  It is a non issue.

I measured the thickness of the electrodes near the edge using a dial
caliper and cannot measure any difference than a bit further in from the
edge.  It appears to me that with circulation the electrodes are letting the
silver be released from the central portion at the same rate as from the
edges.  It may be true that without circulation an electrode may wear out
from the edge inward but that is not my experience with the SG7.  The SG6
uses much slower water circulation and the electrodes are only 1/4" wide so
I do notice the lower corners do deteriorate and become rounded but I also
notice they become very thin at the same time.  I do not believe they are
only deteriorating from the edges inward.

What counts in my mind is this.  The ability to produce a highly ionic
product with small particulate silver component.  As attested by the
electron microscope photos the particles are indeed very small.  As far as
the ions are concerned I'm sure they aren't any different than those made
using your lower current density device.  So once again I ask the
question...why would one want to watch and wait for what would be an
interminable amount of time for the product to be ready to use in order to
keep the electrode clean when one can make it as fast as 2 gallons per hour
and have a little residue which resides in the bottom of the vessel?

What I do is use one half inch spacing between the electrodes and with 30
milliamps of current flowing.  One can see there is a very high current
gradient in the water.  If the water were not circulated the particles would
agglomerate very easily but with vigorous circulation the ions are moved so
rapidly away from that zone they do not do so.

Your statement of time and money wasted certainly does not apply to my
method.  It applies to yours instead.  Talk about time wasted.....  I
suggest you try higher current density and moving the water if you don't
want to waste time.  And please don't tell me the ions made with your
process are better than those made with mine.  I don't believe it.

Regards,

Trem
www.silvergen.com


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Monett" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: CS>$$$ perpectives


> url: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60040.html
> Re: CS>$$$ perpectives
> From: Trem
> Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 14:21:39
>
>   > Mike,
>
>   > See below.
>
>   Trem,
>
>   Thank you for your kind response.
>
>   I would be interested to hear your comments on my main thesis, which
>   is the high current density at the edges of flat plates promotes the
>   generation of particles.
>
>   Your web  site indicates your production unit makes a great  deal of
>   black crud,  but you reverse the polarity so it falls to  the bottom
>   of the container.
>
>   This is obviously time and money wasted.
>
>   With round wire, a current density of 300 uA per square inch or less
>   generates very  little  black crud for the same  number  of Coulombs
>   transferred.
>
>   I'd be interested to see if you can match this performance with flat
>   plates.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mike Monett
>
>
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