True: you would need an IVAC that could pump about two bathtubs full of 10 PPM into the person in 24 hours. They would explode before the 3.8 g toxic dose of Ag was reached. 60gal/24hrs/60min = .0417 gal/min = 4 oz/minute. (If I did the math right) Or something like that. I'm too slow to work it out carefully right now.
JOH -----Original Message----- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 6:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: CS>Re: [sillver_list] Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS Redux Of course that depends on the velocity of administration and the location of the injection site. "Werewolf" At 03:44 PM 6/21/2003 -0600, you wrote: >Hi Alexander, > >RE: "in order to cross over, and meet my maker..." > >I don't think so. 3.8 G. is the toxic, not necessarily lethal dose. > >JOH > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:42 PM >To: [email protected] >Cc: [email protected] >Subject: Re: CS>Re: [sillver_list] Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS >Redux > > > >Ok ... > >Here's a link to water poisoning Q/A's... >http://my.webmd.com/content/article/42/1671_51282.htm >So too much injected in the arteries & veins etc... could cause similar >problems... > >Now as for committing Cepu-Cu with C.S., well I Own and use one of >Trem's SG-7's... It makes terrific C.S. with very small particle size, >& a resultant very high surface area... I consistently set the >generator to produce batches of C.S. with a 15ppm conductivity >reading.... That's 15-milligrams per. liter of distilled water... 15 >milligrams is 15 x 1/1000 of 1-gram of ionic silver particles per. >liter of distilled water... Since it takes 3.8 grams = 3800 milligrams >of elemental silver to commit Cepu-Cu, then I will need to drink ((253) >1-liter bottles = @ 67 U.S.Gal. of C.S.), pretty much, all at once, in >order to cross over, and meet my maker... Hmmmm.... Any one here think >they can drink that much ?????????????? Try Valiums & Booze, that >should be a bit easier... > >Talk about a Drinking Problem.... > >Regards, >Alexander > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Trem" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:19 PM >Subject: Re: CS>Re: [sillver_list] Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS >Redux > > > > Hi Jason, > > > > As I said earlier....am I missing something. Thanks for pointing > > out the reason it isn't a no brainer. Remember, I'm just a designer > > and not a physician. Although if it was an animal I owned, I'd > > probably try it >since > > the critter would probably be a goner if something wasn't tried. > > Too bad they don't have any animals with SARS to try it on. That > > would produce >some > > definitive results just as trying it on a human would. > > > > The thing in your post that bothers me is this. Why is distilled > > water poisonous if is composed of H20 and has no impurities? It > > would be pure >by > > definition if distilled or deionized wouldn't it? Or is it that a > > small amount of water is too much for the body to assimilate? I > > don't think so since it is used in injections all the time. > > > > What is a pyrogen? And why would that be in properly distilled > > water? > > > > Of course silver is incredibly potent. That's the reason for using > > it. >But > > as Jim just pointed out, the lethal dose is 3.8 grams. I'm talking > > about using tenths or hundredths of milligrams, not grams. > > > > Regards, > > > > Trem > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jason Eaton" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 7:03 PM > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: [sillver_list] Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS > > Redux > > > > > > > Trem: > > > > > > There are quite a few factors you are not accounting for: > > > > > > 1. Distilled water injected into the bloodstream can cause shock >leading > > to > > > death. The Sol must be titrated properly; it must be prepared > > > properly. > > > > > > 2. A product that is not certified pyrogen free can easily cause > > > death >in > > > someone who is already sick. It is not enough that a sol be > > > sterile, it cannot have any endotoxin or any substances that may > > > induce a immune response. > > > > > > 3. Silver injected into the bloodstream is incredibly potent. If > > > an MD does not have the experience in this, hesitation can > > > certainly be understandable. > > > > > > 4. Any of the above, if done by an MD, may easily constitute > > > criminal malpractice. In the US, such an MD without proper > > > justification could easily do federal time. > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Trem" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 6:17 PM > > > Subject: CS>Re: [sillver_list] Re: CS>Re: Nebulizing CS for SARS > > > Redux > > > > > > > > > > Hi Catherine, > > > > > > > > I may be missing something here. If so, please excuse me. If >deionized > > > or > > > > distilled water is used in injections and silver is benign, why > > > > is it > > not > > > a > > > > no brainer to inject properly made CS intravenously as a trial >protocol? > > > It > > > > seems that it would be immediately known to the casual observer > > > > if the patient was getting any better since silver works so > > > > quickly. It also > > > seems > > > > to me the blood titer would show a decrease in SARS almost > > > > immediately > > > which > > > > would be the definitive answer. If one used a mix of standard > > > > CS >which > > is > > > > normally composed of 70-90% ions and the remainder being > > > > colloids, it > > > would > > > > cover the bases of which is effective since both would be > > > > circulating >in > > > the > > > > system. It wouldn't matter which did the job of they were to > > > > see a > > > decrease > > > > in viral load and/or the patient responded favorably. > > > > > > > > Mikes idea of using predominantly ionic silver which his process > > > > seems > > to > > > > produce doesn't carry as much weight with me as he seems to > > > > think it > > does. > > > > An ion is an ion and the ions he produces cannot be any > > > > different than > > an > > > > ion any device produces. The major difference can only be the > > > > ratio >of > > > ions > > > > to particles and the size of the particles. If the mix is made > > > > using >a > > > good > > > > process, it will always be crystal clear indicating the colloids > > > > are > > > within > > > > the small range of being colorless. > > > > > > > > As Bob Lee once pointed out there are about 1.41252 X 10+18 > > > > atoms in >one > > > > teaspoon of CS made to 20+ PPM. I would think it wouldn't take > > > > too >much > > > in > > > > an intravenous solution to see some dramatic results. > > > > > > > > And let's remember, an IV of distilled water isn't going to do > > > > any > > damage > > > so > > > > why wouldn't someone try this just to see if it works? Or as I > > > > said earlier, is there something I missed. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Trem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I became involved with this group and actually had the > > > > > opportunity > > to > > > > > present CS to them during a conference call. At that time, my > > thoughts > > > > were > > > > > running along the lines of nebulizing. > > > > > > > > > > Since then, they've considered oral (very difficult because > > > > > most > > > > patients > > > > > are too ill to drink) and IV. They are really skeptical about > > > > > the > > > latter > > > > > because I can't produce enough material that speaks of > > > > > efficacy with > > > this. > > > > > > > > > >> Regards, > > > > > Catherine > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of > > > > > colloidal > > silver. > > > > > > > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: >http://silverlist.org > > > > > > > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > > Silver-list archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
