Lowering the water temperature should also lower the saturation point, therefore , if ions are in solution at a concentration near the saturation point of room temp water, freezing that water should precipitate crystals.

99% ionic silver water at 10 PPM is probably not near the saturation point even in freezing water.
Ode

At 05:22 PM 6/27/2003 -0400, you wrote:
OK it is thawed now. The water is crystal clear now, when it was amber before and the bottom of the container is a big round silver stain on it. But the tyndall
seems to be about the same.

Conclusion. Freezing caused aggregration tf the silver, and most of it precipitated out. What was remaining in the water also aggregated from smaller particles (and likely ions) to much larger particles. Since tyndall goes up to the 3rd power of particle size, a lower concentration of larger particles causes the tyndall to be
about the same.

Freezeing definitely messes up CS.

Marshall

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> After taking the picture and posting that message last night I happened to
> notice that there was a bubble in the center area, and that the brown in the > center was still liquid. So I put it back in the freezer and left it all night. > Now the brown area is about the size of a mustard seed, you almost cannot see
> it.
>
> It is now thawing.
>
> Marshall
>
> nancymike wrote:
>
> > let us know what happened after it thawed.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 4:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>CS in the fridge?
> >
> > > OK, completed the test. The result was, at least for me startling in it
> > > obviousness.
> > >
> > > See http://silver-lightning.com/freezing.jpg for a picture of the
> > experiment.
> > >
> > > I took some high colloidal concentration CS and froze it.  The picture
> > shows what
> > > I got. It can be easily seen that the CS has concentrated into an egg
> > shaped
> > > sphereoid in the center with virtually pure water around it as I had
> > expected.
> > >
> > > Thus freezing will force the CS into a smaller area as expected. I am now
> > thawing
> > > to see if it will return to normal, or something else will happen.
> > >
> > > Marshall
> > >
> > > Marshall Dudley wrote:
> > >
> > > > OK, we have Bob saying that freezing does not hurt CS, and you saying it
> > does,
> > > > but claiming experimental proof. I will try freezing some and see the
> > results.
> > > > I will post the result back here shortly.
> > > >
> > > > Marshall
> > > >
> > > > Marv Hacker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > If your aim is to rid your CS of silver particles, I advise you to
> > > > > freeze it solid. Let me explain why:
> > > > >
> > > > > I purchased Mesosilver, which is the best Colloidal Silver product
> > that
> > > > > I know of. A product of Purest Colloids, Inc. It is a very unusual
> > product
> > > > > for at least two reasons:
> > > > > 1+ It is around 80 percent Colloidal (hence: consisting of around 80
> > percent
> > > > > Silver Particles), the balance being Ionic Silver.
> > > > > 2+ Its Silver Particles average less than one nanometer in diameter.
> > > > >
> > > > >     By contrast, from what I understand, the products of the CS
> > Generators
> > > > > discussed on this forum consist mostly of Silver Ions, with Silver
> > Particles
> > > > > being the smaller portion.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Mesosilver normally has a light tan tint, as seen through its
> > clear
> > > > > plastic bottle (though it appears to be rose colored in photos on its
> > web
> > > > > site). The first two shipments were destroyed due to having been
> > frozen in
> > > > > transit during this past winter. The damaged shipment arrived crystal
> > clear,
> > > > > with a TE that you might expect of DW (practically nil). Proper
> > Mesosilver
> > > > > has a significant TE. The particles of the damaged shipment had
> > agglomerated
> > > > > and fallen to the bottom of the bottles.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have photos showing the damaged product, with the silver at the
> > > > > bottom, that I will send upon request.
> > > > >
> > > > >     Without a hint of a snivel, Frank Key was very gracious, and
> > replaced
> > > > > each of the damaged shipments at no charge.
> > > > > http://www.purestcolloids.com/mesosilver.htm
> > > > >
> > > > >     Some scientists believe that the sub-nanometer Silver Particle
> > provides
> > > > > the most pathogen killing power against insults internal to the body,
> > as
> > > > > compared with Ionic Silver. Even if they are wrong, what reason is
> > there for
> > > > > eliminating Silver Particles?
> > > > >
> > > > > Best regards,
> > > > >   :) Marv
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:49 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: CS>CS in the fridge?
> > > > >
> > > > > The belief that freezing could be harmful is from theory. Apparently
> > Bob has
> > > > > made measurements with freezing and found it does not cause any
> > problems. If
> > > > > that is the case then experiment trumps theory.
> > > > >
> > > > > Marshall
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeff wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks Marshall,
> > > > > > Too bad about the no freezing thing tho. It would be nice to make
> > ice
> > > > > > cubes of CS and slip it into kids drinks so they don't know they are
> > > > > > taking medicine. lol
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 9:26 AM
> > > > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: CS>CS in the fridge?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I think it is inconclusive.  It is certainly not necessary for
> > > > > > properly
> > > > > > > made
> > > > > > > CS though.  However do not freeze.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Marshall
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jeff wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I was wonder what the list think is toward putting CS in the
> > fridge.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > read about it in the archives but it seemed kinda inconclusive
> > and
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > 2 years old so I thought I better ask what the thinking is at
> > this
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > > The reason for the question is that some of my family seems to
> > think
> > > > > > > > there is no metallic taste when the CS is cold.
> > > > > > > >
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