--- Mike Monett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Now WallMart seems to have changed their dw, and I
> haven't been able
> to find any that works as well as their old stuff.
> Maybe it's just a
> batch problem - I really hope so. Good dw is hard
> to find.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Mike Monett
> Thought I'd add some data on the Wallmart distilled
water problem. I use square bar silver electrodes,
submerged to about 1 sq in on the inner sides, with
just over an inch in separation of electrodes. I noted
that my battery CS machine that provides about 20.4
volts DC in open circuit was reading about 19.8 volts
enabling 1 ma in a recent DW batch made on 06/05. This
wallmart DW was obtained in NE Ohio, and was back to
the quality I found some time ago, where my readings
usually fluxuated beteen .95 ma and 1.05 ma. So
thinking that the water had got better I went and
purchased 8 more gallons. Guess what, that water was
back to its latest readings which were 18.7 volts
enabling 1.32 ma! I will not use that water!
Distillata is more expensive but usually reads in the
.9 ma range, which I consider clean. I decided to do
an experiment where I could determine how much cleaner
the Wallmart distilled could become by employing a
second distillation of that "dirty" DW that was
reading 1.32 ma initially. I used a poly holder for a
cell where the electrodes were very secure and did not
move, and the glass holder was also used to hold equal
volumes of water. The 1.32 ma water tested out at 19.3
volts enabling .85 ma after it was tested out steaming
hot from the Ellis ozonated steam distillation
process. Knowing that temperature has a lot to do with
the currents one will obtain, I tested this again when
it cooled to room temperature. It then tested out at
19.2 volts enabling .78 ma, some of the cleanest DW I
have yet seen... This seems like about a 60%
improvement from the initial conditions, quite
reamarkable for a product "claiming" to be distilled
water. I have since only used this "double distilled"
water for use in CS, with the added benefit that the
steam passes over a UV bulb which is suppossed to
ozonate and energize the water molecule. This is
supposedly accomplished by changing the phase angle of
the H20 water molecule, but the ways and means of
testing this are very limited. It is supposed to
change the "refractive index" of the ozonated water,
but I have devised a test for capacity which shows
that the water is slightly more capacitive than
ordinary water. The ellis UV bulb readily emits an
ozone smell, and one is not supposed to directly look
at this light. The bulb removed from the steam chamber
is shown at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/WAT/Dsc00248.jpg
I made a single cell batch using this water where it
was current limited to 1.23 ma using current limited
NST transformer secondary method. It ran for 4 hours
yeilding a finish voltage of 4.7 volts. The battery
test for conductivity showed 18.4 volts enabling 3.66
ma, over a quadrupling of initial tested currents. I
was quite surprised to find that what others have said
is true, it is possible to make CS that does not turn
yellow over age. This batch had no yellow
discoloration, about two weeks later... When I was
making batches in bulk by the 5 cell parallel method,
this water seemed to alway turn yellow with time,
after all the CS was combined together in a gallon
container. The problem may have been the fact that if
one cell starts conducting well before another one,
more current can go through that cell. On a 5 ma
current limit, I had noticed that testing one cell out
of the five yeilded a current of 1.5 ma, which is
excessive according to regimens establishing 1.23 ma
as an upper current limit. The water from "bulk"
batches seemed to always turn yellow when aged in
combination. I will have to try making batches with a
very low current limit for bulk production methods
then...
All this then leads to an important question,
could it be that "ultra clean" DW might not be as
susceptable to the later yellowing that often occurs
with age?
Could we have a questionere poll here as to how many
people experience a yellowing of their CS after 3
days?
I am aware that there are "professionals" out there
that claim their water stays clear indefinitely, now I
definitely beleive them having produced this for
myself finally. To show just how yellow a batch can
become, here is some water from a bulk batch that was
further processed one half hour from 20 volt battery
CS generator...
Gold colloidal solution from 5 glass bulk method
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/files/MED/Dsc00484.jpg
PS; It is also claimed that a north magnetic pole
from a magnet will "energize" water to change its
phase angle, which is why I make CS over a north
magnetic pole.
Sincerely HDN
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