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Re: CS>SilverGen specs.
From: Ode Coyote
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 11:38:29

  [...]

  > Also, I have lab tests that say that that 24 PPM is  actually 45.5
  > PPM and other results that say it's 20 PPM. I just don't  know who
  > to believe , so, I go with "my" PWT and Trems fudge factor just so
  > we're all on the same page. We need some sort of standard  just to
  > communicate...even if it's wrong?

  > It's not  so  much 'care' as it is caution. The  bold  FACT  is, I
  > don't know  and have no way to find out when everyone  else claims
  > to know but can't agree.

  This is very similar to the way the hard disk industry was  way back
  in the beginning. There were no standards, and we  didn't understand
  all the factors that affected the performance.

  Since the disk packs were interchangeable in those days,  some would
  work and some wouldn't. All the parameters were interrelated. If you
  changed one, all the rest would change. It was a nightmare.

  Fortunately, I  found  a  way   to  measure  the  readback amplitude
  accurately in the presence of noise, and to measure the distribution
  of bits  in  the data recovery window.  This  separated  the various
  factors into  their  individual components. Then  we  could  work on
  improving each  one  separately. The disk industry has  moved  on to
  better encoding  schemes  such  as  PRML, but  a  lot  of  the basic
  fundamentals still apply.

  Making cs  seems to be in a similar state. There are so  many claims
  and counterclaims, and so many different ways to make cs, and nobody
  really knows  how  it works in the body. No  wonder  newbies  have a
  tough time figuring out what's going on!

  Fortunately, the 5 to 10 ppm you get from the 3 nines seems  to work
  well on bacteria. So just about anything will give good  results for
  most users.

  > The problems  I  had  with   the   PWTs   had  to  do  with Hannas
  > incompetence in   packaging   calibration   solutions.  The meters
  > themselves are  very good as far as they go and for  what  they do
  > while we mis-apply them. I had no problems with Trem.

  > Hanna is obtuse and gives everyone the run around [including Trem]
  > before admitting an obvious error. It just took both of us yelling
  > to move Hanna...and some small amount of effort to get  past Trems
  > faith in Hanna.

  Have you  had time to try making your own standard using  salt using
  the data in Steve's post?

    http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60245.html

  [...]

  > Naptha does  a wonderful job on flux residue...or  use  water base
  > flux and wash well.

  I still use rosin core for prototypes. Thanks for the hint on Naptha
  - I'll get some and try it.

  [...]

  > Ode [Ken]

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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