Reid & Jack: There are at least five companies in Mexico producing CS with the same rating as Microdyn (not 3200 ppm, but rather 0.32 percent CS rating on the label). Some go higher, to 0.35 and 0.36.
We went around and around on this issue years ago, and to my knowledge, no one has ever tested Microdyn for its actual ppm rating. But it is very potent, working in DROP dosages instead of teaspoon or tablespoon doses. About one year ago, Microdyn repackaged its product, going from a 25 ml bottle to a 15 ml bottle, keeping the price the same. At the same time, one of the CS competitors, Bac-Dyn, produced a 35 ml bottle at a lower price than the 15 ml Microdyn. (About 80 cents a bottle versus $1US) I quickly bought up about 15 bottles of the Bac-Dyn. (CS price wars in Mexico!!) But about 8-10 months ago, I read a post from Marshall Dudley (I believe) who said he had produced a bad batch of CS, and it had turned his fingernails blue. I checked my fingernails, and damned if they weren't blue. I blamed the Bac-Dyn, because I had been taking MicroDyn for six years with no problems whatsoever. I immediately stopped taking the Bac-Dyn internally (but kept using it externally) and within three months, my fingernails were back to normal. Although practically everybody in Mexico uses Microdyn or one of the other CS products, I have never seen a blue Mexican. They are all a lovely shade of brown. That's about as anecdotal as you can get. Bill Missett Puerto Escondido, Oaxaca, Mexico ps: MicroDyn also sells its product in 1&2 liter bottle sizes, at huge discounts. I understand it is available at the Price Club and Sam's Club in Acapulco, the nearest big city to me. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid Harvey" <pott...@wlink.com.np> To: "silver list" <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:56 PM Subject: Re: CS>3200 ppm CS & Mexico¹s drinking water > Jack, > As a result of something else that Alex said there are now a few points > concerning Microdyn of which I'm not sure. In part of a response Alex > said: > > .....This Agua limpia is Microdyn (3200 ppm c.c.) but was produced by > Roland Laboratories for the use in the purification for wasted water by > the Mexican Government (I am pretty sure they NEVER let others to know > the secret formula/production/research) They patented this way of making > the C.S. (I believe they use a micro pulverize method named colloidal > pulverizer mill) And yes there are several companies selling the C.S. in > Mexico. But no one has the 3200 p.p.m....... > > My question now concerns something I learned in Chemistry, where my > knowledge of this discipline is quite incomplete. It has been my > understanding that ions can only exist in solution, otherwise under very > limited circumstances. My impression from prior discussions here is > that the *best of the concentrated CS brands* may contain no more than > about 0.5 to 1.0% of a protein stabilizer. But if a concentrated CS is > made from *a micro pulveriser mill,* what does this say about other > compounds that may be present? This is something to think about and I'm > not saying CS made in this way is necessarily a problem, only that I now > see question marks. > > I do know that there are companies in Spain that make a *powdered CS,* > as I've mentioned here before. And my understanding from technical > literature is that one of these brands contains 80% silver. So what > else is present? As to Microdyn, I should say that I have no particular > reason to believe it has problems, but I am also curious about cases of > argyria in Mexico, documented or anecdotal. If for no other reason this > would be of interest for a society in which there is a lot of exposure > to silver. > > I also mentioned earlier that in a 250 ml. glass I found, using the > Hanna PWT, that each 1 drop of the Mexican 3200ppm CS added 1.0 ppm to > the water. So 10 drops gave 10 ppm. At this rate for any questionable > 20%, indicating 2.0 ppm (let us say for the sake of argument) of a > silver compound, would this pose a possible cosmetic problem? For that > matter what about people in our part of the world, South Asia, who are > eating sweets that are covered with silver leaf? > > I would also like to say that I think Alex Torres appears to be doing > wonderful work. Incidentally, Alex said only Microdyn makes CS as > concentrated as 3200ppm, but we who saturate ceramic filters have used > products as high as 32,000 ppm, 3.2 % solution. > Reid > > Jack Dayton said: > 3200 ppm CS & Mexico¹s drinking water > > It is hard to know how to write this, but I becameinterested in high > concentration CS about 6 months ago after an exchange of messages > between Bill Missett and myself. > > At the time Bill was living in Mexico, and had, on more than one post, > mentioned Mexican made CS that was being sold as 3200 ppm. I suggested > that he might like to become a reseller to interested list members, > because of the extremely low price it was available for there. That > didn¹t work out.................... > > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com> >
