Hi Ode and Other Brains that continue to examine ideas and possibilities to overcome the seemingly impossible and end up with doable solutions to help others! What a marvelous group of generous ladies and gentlemen with very impressive backgrounds, each examining the question from a different, unique point of view.
Thank you Ode, for your idea of making the filter of concrete and CS--sounds much simpler, you'd not need the excessively high temperatures that could vaporize the silver and although they might have a shorter usage life-span, since economy is a vital consideration, might be the answer! Best regards, Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -----Original Message----- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 5:54 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>constant current and concentrated CS At 06:08 AM 10/15/2003 +0530, you wrote: >Ode, >I'm thinkng you may be correct. But do I get a constant voltage, even >where initial conductivity is near zero? Perhaps I could start with a >tiny amount of salt or soda, enough to get about 1.0uS. But if I end up >with only about 100 ppm of silver, to be as economical as we would need >to be I should perhaps forget about the distilled water, perhaps going >for rain water -when- possible. ## Zero conductivity is where you get the voltage that's exactly what the power supply will put out. Most power supplies drop voltage when they are loaded up. With a really high amperage one like a car battery, there won't be a noticable drop at the currents we're playing with, but in a car, it'll drop as much as 5 volts when you pull that 80 to 100 amps with the starter. Rain water can actually be pretty darned good distilled. > >If I end up using tap water, ~150 ppm I'll get real mud. But is there >likely to be anything in this that is a problem? After all, it's piped >water that has had some treatment for physical chemical aspects. Then >again, all the minerals in the water may prevent getting very far with >the reaction. Perhaps I could then take the samples to a lab to check >for the presence of silver, but if I remember correctly in atomic >absorption the test is for the presence of ionic silver. ## If I use my well water, it makes a grey precipitate. It's high in iron and calcium. Perhaps some dissolved sulphides too from the iron bacteria. It can get a little skunky in the summer. I think AA spectrometers measure all the silver. > >Or I could weigh the electrodes before and after, then assume all the >mud to be compunds of silver, but having had physical chemical tests, >this would be compounds that would be harmless within a filter. I guess >this is a rhetorical question. Do I make sense? I'm sure the answers >are out there, just waiting to be grasped. ## I'm clawing at em just like you. [Probably batting a few out of reach too] If you're going to fire the filters, I wouldn't worry about what form the silver takes...just keep it silver. I think that 2000 or so deg F is going to make it all metallic anyhow..if it doesn't vaporize it. On that note, red clay has a lot of iron in it. Don't know about white and yellow clay. Alloys? Ever think about making a filter out of concrete with CS as the mix water? Ode >Reid > >Ode Coyote said: >If you're not concerned with particle size at high concentrations, and >apparently you're not as you seem happy with a red result, going with >constant voltage along with the run away problem will definitely be a >lot >faster than using current controls. > > However, it's not a long shot to wind up with a brown muddy emulsified >mix >that turns black the next day when the current gets really high. If >you're >just going to sinter all that into clay at high temperatures, black >might >not be a problem. > >Ode > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
