Then the calculation that the quardratic came up with of about .4 nm for 400 nm
was much closer than I thought!

Thanks for the additional data point for size vs wavelength for absorption.

Marshall

Frank Key wrote:

> Marshall wrote:
>
> > Yes, and no.  If it is clear it is either below 30 or above 144, but how
> much below or above is not easy to determine since the data does not go that
> far.
> >
> > I spent a little time with some curve fitting programs, but unfortunately
> every curve fit I
> > could find did not extrapolate at all.  If I get a chance I will see if I
> can determine the
> > approximate particles size for absorption at 300 nm, which is the lower
> limit of a
> > normal person's vision.
>
> Color vs. particle size does not hold true for low the concentrations of
> particles as found in most ionic CS. Many clear ionic products have
> particles that measure in the 30 to 144 nm range but are low enough in
> concentration that no color is discernable.
>
> The particles in Mesosilver measure  0.65 nm and it has peak absorption at
> 400 nm. The particles in Mesogold measure the same but the absorption peak
> is at 520 nm.
>
> frank key
>
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > Arnold Beland wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you, Marshall, for publishing this very valuable data.  May we
> infer from this that the particle size of our home made sol, if it is clear,
> is less than 40nm ?  The fact that we have particles would be borne out by
> the presence of a strong beam of laser light from our laser pointer.
> > > Best Regards,
> > > Arnold Beland
> > > www.atlasnova.com
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 7:09 AM
> > > Subject: CS>Color of silver sols
> > >
> > > > The following information is from "Light-Scattering Submircorsopic
> particles as
> > > > Highly Fluorescent Analogs and Their Use as Tracer labels in Clinical
> and
> > > > Biuological Applications" by Juan Yguerabide and Evangelina E.
> Yguerabide, Depart
> > > > of biology, University of California at San Diego, La Jolla,
> California 92093.
> > > > Analytical Biochemnistry 262, pages 157-176 (1998)..  Articles number
> AB982760.
> > > >
> > > > Silver Sols (colloidal silver):
> > > >
> > > > Diameter    Transmission    Scattered Light    Absorb. wave max (nm)
> Scattered
> > > > wave max
> > > > 38                   Yellow            Blue violet
> > > > 431                                    465
> > > > 47                   Yellow            Blue
> > > > 440                                    472
> > > > 60                   Yellow            Light Blue
> > > > 449                                    474
> > > > 75                    Gold              Green Blue            465
> > > > 90                    Pink               Yellow
> > > > 488                                    572
> > > > 118                  Pink               Yellow
> > > > 527                                    575
> > > > 144                  Brown            Pale Yellow
> > > > 575                                    590
> > > >
> > > > This will be followed by 3 emails.
> > > >
> > > > 1. Silver spectral absortion for silver sols, unnormalized
> > > > 2. Silver spectral absorption for silver sols, smaller particles
> normalized.
> > > > 3. Gold spectral absorption for gold sols, normalized.
> > > >
> > > > Marshall
> > > >
> > > >
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