Rob, how much CS are you using that you mix in the 1/2 to 1 teaspoon into? Thanks Debbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Combis" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:12 PM Subject: RE: CS>DMSO/MSM
> Debbie- > I mix the MSM right in with the CS at the time of treatment. Like 1/2-1 teaspoon or so...I don't use distilled water in the treatment, just CS. This is just how I do it. Also I like to mix the CS with the MSM just for the amount I am going to use for the treatment. > > Below is some info on MSM and DMSO from a web page... > http://www.krysalis.net/dmso.htm > Hope this helps, > Rob > > DMSO is a widely used commercial solvent derived from trees (living plants) as a byproduct from the production of paper. There are so many claimed health benefits from its use, one has to wonder if it doesn't perform a similar vital function in the biochemistry of plants. If so, it may be no accident that it can provide such broad ranging health benefits to us. It has been written up in many places such as the recent book "DMSO, Nature's Healer" by Dr. Morton Walker (1993), and by Dr. Julian Whitaker in his newsletter "Health and Healing" in the August, 1995 issue. It is sold in many if not most health food stores in the US and in most countries around the world. Apparently it is used by millions of people for its health benefit properties. I have also found it has a profound beneficial effect in the treatment of Crohn's Disease as discussed in an earlier Health Note. It is commonly used for treating animals, horses in particular, but the FDA has approved it for only one use for humans, the treatment of interstitial cystitis. Since so many people use it anyway, this has made it a controversial subject. Possibly one reason for this is that no one has ever explained how it works biochemically. If that can be done, it should take it out of the controversial "magic" health benefit classification, and put it on a sound technical foundation. It is the purpose of this Health Note to present my new insight/views into that needed description of the primary biochemical function of DMSO in combination with its spontaneously created oxidized form, MSM. > > In the Health Note for Crohn's Disease I describe a mechanism where the DMSO stimulates a mechanism that enhances the transport of iron from the intestine to the rest of the cells in the body. This is a very specialized mechanism, which is not the primary health benefit mechanism that will be discussed here. The primary mechanism discussed here is how I believe DMSO, in combination with its spontaneously generated oxidized form, MSM, act as an antioxidant pair, in the same sense as I discuss other antioxidants in the previous Health Note, in other words the biochemistry of how DMSO and MSM act together to enhance metabolism. > > Oxidation States of DMSO > > In the body, DMSO can and does take three different oxidation states. It is useful to think of them as being in equilibrium, with the distribution between them at any point being determined by the localized conditions that exist within the cells. The first oxidation state is DMSO itself which has one oxygen atom attached to the sulfur atom. The other two are 1) dimethyl sulfone, also known as methlysulfonylmethane (MSM), which is DMSO with an additional oxygen atom attached to the sulfur atom, forming a molecule with a total of two attached oxygen atoms, and 2) dimethyl sulfide which is DMSO with the oxygen atom removed, forming a molecule with no oxygen's attached. Both DMSO and MSM have the property of being quite soluble in both oil and water based liquids. However, dimethyl sulfide is hydrophobic and tends to be insoluble in water and soluble in oil based liquids. > > DMSO and MSM > > It should be mentioned here that dimethyl sulfone, the oxidized form of DMSO, is just the more commonly used chemical name for methlysulfonylmethane (MSM) which is now readily available in health foods stores, and which many claim to greatly enhance energy. According to my theory presented here, DMSO and MSM, which form each other in the body, should be essentially indistinguishable in their biochemical effects. They reach a equilibrium distribution between them that is dependent on the local body chemistry, and is independent of which one you start with. > > The Metabolic Enhancement (Antioxidant) Mechanism of the DMSO-MSM Pair > > The metabolic enhancement mechanism of DMSO (or MSM) is that of an exceptionally effective oxygen transport system. This transport system involves only two of the three oxidation forms, DMSO and dimethyl sulphone (also known as MSM). If we consider both DMSO and MSM coexisting in equilibrium within the body, (as they always would no matter which you started with) and recognizing that different parts of the body have different oxidation potentials. Then, as the combination is exposed to a zone of high oxidation potential, DMSO is oxidized to MSM resulting in a new distribution of DMSO and MSM which is higher in MSM. Then as the combination moves to a zone of lower oxidation potential, the MSM releases its oxygen, delivering it to the metabolic processes, resulting in a new distribution that is higher in DMSO again. The cycle then repeats itself and in doing so, serves as an exceptionally effective oxygen transport system. This system could be operative on a macro scale, enhancing the transport of oxygen from the lungs to the blood, from the blood to the cells, and on a micro scale within the cells transporting high oxidation potential to the lower oxidation potential of the mitochondria where it is used in metabolism. We have a continuously decreasing oxidation potential starting highest at the entry point, the lungs, lower in the blood, lower yet as it enters the cells, continuously lowered in the sequences of the metabolic reactions, and finally lowest of all as it is excreted as carbon dioxide and water, the products of metabolism. The DMSO-MSM system of transport will operate only at the front end, delivering oxygen to the mitochondria. It is unlikely that it will play a significant role after the oxygen has been delivered to the mitochondria and the complex metabolic reaction sequences start. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jack Dayton [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wed 11/5/2003 2:43 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: > Subject: Re: CS>DMSO/MSM > > > > kittykat 11/4/03 3:35 PM Wrote: > > > After reading Rob's comments regarding helping his sister's asthma, perhaps > > I should start adding MSM instead of the DMSO first. > ********************* > I can't answer that, I don't know if MSM has the > same transdermal ability as DMSO, probably some > other, more knowledged member, will elucidate. > > But if you wish to buy MSM as a powder which you > can then make up a portion as a liquid just start slowly > adding MSM to DW until no more MSM will liquefy. > I started with 8 oz of DW and I think it was about > the 4th or 5th scoop (a scoop comes in the can) that > no more would liquefy - pour off the liquid, and discard > what's left in the bottom. > I probably would be a good idea to rinse the containers > used for mixing with CS to sterilize things. > > I bought my MSM from the following supplier that I have > dealt with for many years - very reliable. To go directly to > the page - copy and paste: > > http://www.swansonvitamins.com/shopItemDetail.asp?txtQueryID=sw851&txtProduc > tID=SW851&selCategory=&txtKeyword=&selPrice=&abspage=1&SID=&SourceCode=INTL0 > 07&vendor=&selSortOption=&selHealthDropdown=&shopperid=P6HXG57440S92H4300AKH > 8LW30J17SDE > > See why I suggested copy & paste? > > Good luck, and be careful. > > Jack > > Be Nice > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > >
