Evening Terry,
Thanks for the details and guiding my thinking.
Minerals are frequently combined with amino acids
its called Chelating to make them more assimilable.
I wonder if any plant or human can use a mineral that is not in fact
chelated?
Based on your statement above, there exists "degrees of chelation". We all
need to know more about that aspect of minerals for sure.
This is because the minerals they are putting in the
supplement are metallic minerals, not organic.
Then you must define organic as being handled and processed by a
plant, not a human.
All elements came from the same place, unless we subscribe to the theory
that plants can change one mineral to another, or in fact produce an
original element.
The elements in plant nutrients, made by man, are in fact the very same
elements that the plant has processed.
Organic minerals such as those found in plants do not need to be chelated.
Do you mean, "chelated by man" ? I think the plants have already
chelated the minerals.
Chelating minerals increases the assimilation of them, but not to the
same level as is
already present in plant-based minerals. Its just that getting minerals
from the ground is much cheaper and easier (you can do it with a shovel)
than extracting them from plants. When you see a supplement with chelated
minerals, you know the minerals are not organic.
What you are saying, or the way I understand it, 100 mg of potassium,
100 mg of magnesium, ect, means absolutely nothing. Unless these minerals
are chelated with something, in some fashion, by either a plant or a human,
nothing can be absorbed and utilized.
In addition, different degrees of chelation exists, different methods,
and chelation by different chemicals determine if we get any nutrition at all?
I am not disagreeing with you are at all, simply trying to gain a better
understanding of this dilemma situation.
The plants had taken the metallic iron from the ground and converted it to
organic iron, meaning a form of iron useable by an organism.
I find this hard to believe that a lowly plant can use something I
can't. A time factor is involved.
The metallic iron spent some time in the soil. Various complex process are
going on continuously in healthy soil.
When you use the term "organic iron" above, don't you mean "chelated iron"?
Possibly, chemical action in the soil reacted with the inorganic iron to
produce a from usable by the plant.
I know this happens with specific forms of Nitrogen. You can dump all
the NH4 around a plant that you wish, it will not use it until this is
converted to NO3. The rate of this conversion depends on the overall
health of the soil and biological activity.
The same idea could be applied to plants as humans relative to the iron
filings. We could eat them, or we could sprinkle them around the
plants. Neither or us would benefit.
The time factor and the chemical reactions in the soil would eventually
get some iron into the plant.
Wayne
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