Good morning Wayne!  :-)

In a message dated 2/11/04 8:24:37 PM EST, [email protected] writes:

>>The large commercial farmers often have financial pressure that 
 overrides any thought of tomorrow.  In this case, tomorrow is next year, 
 and years after that.<<

You are right about that.  Sadly, financial pressure affects the small farmer 
just as much -- maybe more -- the ones that I know have a huge overhead for 
equipment, etc., and have to farm large amounts of land to produce a decent 
income.
 
 >>The smaller farmers can do soil restoration easier than the larger 
 ones.  We have many commercial chicken growers in our state.  This chicken 
 litter waster is distributed over the fields.<<

Well, smaller farmers can make their own decisions instead of having to 
answer to corporate CEO's, so I guess that's easier, but they are under the 
same 
per-acre investment constraints as large farmers (or corporate farmers) -- 
maybe 
more so as they have fewer acres with which to produce a living wage.   We 
have many commercial chicken growers in our state as well.  (Where are you 
located?)  Not too many farmers take advantage of the chicken litter for use on 
their fields unless they can get it free.  Some of the reasons for this is the 
expense and/or labor required to pick up and transport the litter by truck to 
the fields, and the frequent difficulty of their fields being dry enough and 
the 
timing of their field work coordinating with the availability of the litter 
(small amounts of chicken litter are available on a bi-monthly basis in between 
flocks when the barns are *crusted* and top dressed -- the entire bedding in 
the barns is only available when the barns are completely cleaned out, which 
happens anywhere from one to three years).  Also -- chicken litter has been 
designated as a *toxic waste product* by the environmental people, so lots of 
farmers are now afraid to use it.  Go figure, huh?
 
>> Many farmers will give you stable litter free, if you have the energy and 
 determination to remove and distribute it. Cotton Gin Waste is free and when 
well composted is suitable for scattering over the fields.<<

I wonder how many farmers avail themselves of these products?  We have stable 
litter, which we're quite willing to give away.  Only one farmer takes 
advantage of that.  The same farmer takes our chicken litter.  Sadly, these 
nutrients aren't going back into people-food -- he grows hay.  
 
 >>Some farmers plant cover crops to stop soil erosion.  The crops are cut 
 into the soil in the springtime.<<

Now that's interesting.  In our area, because of the type of soil we have, 
once an erosion cover is established, it's left in place.  If it was ever 
ploughed under, the erosion that followed would be even worse.
 
>>Not all farmers are idiots and unconcerned.  We eat the produce ourselves.<<

Oh, I never suggested that they are -- you know now that we're farmers too 
(actually, we're semi-farmers -- we contract out the field work for crops).  
But 
I stand by my original statement that farmers -- for the most part -- invest 
in the fertilizing products that will create the largest crop possible, not 
the most nutritional crop possible.  This isn't a blanket indictment of 
irresponsibility, it's a financial thing -- and it's just the way it is.  I'm 
glad to 
hear that you treat your own land with such respect.  Wish there were more 
like you.       MA


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