As a consumer with some basic knowledge of the supply chain, I would prefer
buying directly from the farmer.  The reason is that if I pay a fair price
(around the same as the store) then the farmer takes all the money, and does
not have to share it with a bunch of middle men and stores.  This opens up
the opportunity that he can do as good a job as possible and not deprive his
family, and he can make a decent living.  In the long run, I will find
farmers who will really care about the quality of the products they grow,
because they can make a decent living.  Now, I know this is not the way
things are very much these days, but if you care about the quality, it
should be something we should do more of.  I know some people claim they are
too busy, but just think of taking a wonderful drive in the country each
weekend with the kids to pick up some of your weekly food needs.  When done
regularly, you may find that less trips are needed as you learn to freeze
and can some items.  If you are booked to the gills with kids clubs, etc.
then have the kids have one or two less clubs and forego the golf for dad
and the aerobics for mom on Saturday morning, and take that country drive.
You and the kids will learn a bit about farming, enjoy the seasonal changes
and probably make some new friends in the farmers you meet.  You may also
share some of this with friends and you could alternate weekends.  If you
find 3 other families who would like to do the same, then you could each do
one weekend a month and buy for everyone at the same time.  For some people
this would be a great way to just slow down for a change.

As you can see, I am learning to really enjoy this transition to better
health.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>soil minerals, No putting them back


Good morning Wayne!  :-)

In a message dated 2/11/04 8:24:37 PM EST, [email protected] writes:

>>The large commercial farmers often have financial pressure that
 overrides any thought of tomorrow.  In this case, tomorrow is next year,
 and years after that.<<

You are right about that.  Sadly, financial pressure affects the small
farmer
just as much -- maybe more -- the ones that I know have a huge overhead for
equipment, etc., and have to farm large amounts of land to produce a decent
income.

 >>The smaller farmers can do soil restoration easier than the larger
 ones.  We have many commercial chicken growers in our state.  This chicken
 litter waster is distributed over the fields.<<

Well, smaller farmers can make their own decisions instead of having to
answer to corporate CEO's, so I guess that's easier, but they are under the
same
per-acre investment constraints as large farmers (or corporate farmers) --
maybe
more so as they have fewer acres with which to produce a living wage.   We
have many commercial chicken growers in our state as well.  (Where are you
located?)  Not too many farmers take advantage of the chicken litter for use
on
their fields unless they can get it free.  Some of the reasons for this is
the
expense and/or labor required to pick up and transport the litter by truck
to
the fields, and the frequent difficulty of their fields being dry enough and
the
timing of their field work coordinating with the availability of the litter
(small amounts of chicken litter are available on a bi-monthly basis in
between
flocks when the barns are *crusted* and top dressed -- the entire bedding in
the barns is only available when the barns are completely cleaned out, which
happens anywhere from one to three years).  Also -- chicken litter has been
designated as a *toxic waste product* by the environmental people, so lots
of
farmers are now afraid to use it.  Go figure, huh?

>> Many farmers will give you stable litter free, if you have the energy and
 determination to remove and distribute it. Cotton Gin Waste is free and
when
well composted is suitable for scattering over the fields.<<

I wonder how many farmers avail themselves of these products?  We have
stable
litter, which we're quite willing to give away.  Only one farmer takes
advantage of that.  The same farmer takes our chicken litter.  Sadly, these
nutrients aren't going back into people-food -- he grows hay.

 >>Some farmers plant cover crops to stop soil erosion.  The crops are cut
 into the soil in the springtime.<<

Now that's interesting.  In our area, because of the type of soil we have,
once an erosion cover is established, it's left in place.  If it was ever
ploughed under, the erosion that followed would be even worse.

>>Not all farmers are idiots and unconcerned.  We eat the produce
ourselves.<<

Oh, I never suggested that they are -- you know now that we're farmers too
(actually, we're semi-farmers -- we contract out the field work for crops).
But
I stand by my original statement that farmers -- for the most part -- invest
in the fertilizing products that will create the largest crop possible, not
the most nutritional crop possible.  This isn't a blanket indictment of
irresponsibility, it's a financial thing -- and it's just the way it is.
I'm glad to
hear that you treat your own land with such respect.  Wish there were more
like you.       MA



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