Jan,
Yours is a generous offer, and it makes clear that in the long run,
efforts to keep the public in the dark about legitimate health claims
are not likely to succeed. However, it is my observation that the FDA
has been able to do some arm-twisting in nearby Canada, and it may be
that even in the Netherlands, some caution is in order.
The depth of the corruption in health care and pharmaceuticals is
profound, as evidenced by the recently passed health bill in the USA,
which specifically bars the importation of deeply-discounted
pharmaceuticals from Canada. Clearly this provision was a gift to
the pharmaceutical companies and in now way serves the long-term
interests of the taxpayers.
NB that the current Senate boss, Bill Frist MD, of Tennessee, has a
26 million dollar stake in his family's privately-owned hospital chain,
Hospital Corporation of America. Dr. Bill, of course, headed up
the effort to cram this bill through Congress. Conflicts of interest
are the order of the day in the USA today.
On Wednesday, Feb 18, 2004, at 08:58 Asia/Tokyo, Jan Stoeten wrote:
Hello Marshall,
Here, in the Netherlands, I will be setting up a website that should
be up
and running by March 16th. We do not have an FDA or anything like it.
It is
possible to make many health claims on your site in the Netherlands. I
was
thinking of making MANY, MANY claims on my future site that will
starting
off with the best and cheapest colloidal silver in our country. If
there is
a way that your site (or those of others) could access (link to) my
claims
without the FDA breathing down your neck, then I would be more than
pleased
to be of any assistance. Let me know what you think.
All the best,
Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:50 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Emailing: ANS00971
The FDA really gives the CS producers a catch 22. I wanted to include
some
documentation that indicated that if one is chronically ill then they
should
start off with small amounts of CS. This would be a warning to
prevent one
from
becoming very sick from a healing crisis. But I can't do that because
that says
that CS kills pathogens, and then the FDA could come after me. So I am
unable to
give a real warning to a real possible problem due to the FDA wanting
the
people
to not know that it works..
Go figure.
Marshall
Thora Rasmussen wrote:
It is my understanding that non drug products cannot make cure
claims,
so
anything mentioning the actual way to use it would not be allowed.
This
letter was trickily written. It actually does not say it is
dangerous.
It
just says the limitations on labelling. I am unsure on what the US
rules
for dosage are, but I think what they are saying is that dosages
need to
be
clearly marked. In Canada many things will have dosage
recommendations
at a
level that will not harm anyone, but for those people doing their own
research, they will take however much they want. If necessary,
warnings
can
also be included to indicate if, for example, a rash or stomache ache
occurs
to discontinue use. Here in Canada, there is no way you could
possibly
figure out how to use products unless you obtained the information
in a
different spot than the bottle. Here, those 2 things cannot legally
exist
together. That is why we often see one site with product info that
does
not
really tell us how much to take and when. The light warning against
argyria
looks like just a scare tactic without actually lying. The abuse
that
is
required to cause it is so way beyond even most radical users, but
they
just
"gotta" throw that in there. Wouldn't it be interesting to see this
type of
warning on every drug, food, and OTC medicine. No one would leave
there
house!! We'd all be scared to death!!
Thora
-----Original Message-----
From: bob smith [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 2:33 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CS>Emailing: ANS00971
I just came across this article. I had never heard of these
restrictions on
CS. My understanding was that they did not find it harmful. But
there
could be no claims made as to its benefits. Bob Smith
FDA
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August 17, 1999
Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA
FDA ISSUES FINAL RULE ON
OTC DRUG PRODUCTS CONTAINING COLLOIDAL SILVER
The FDA has issued a Final Rule declaring that all over- the-counter
(OTC)
drug products containing colloidal silver or silver salts are not
recognized
as safe and effective and are misbranded.
Colloidal silver is a suspension of silver particles in a colloidal
(gelatinous) base. In recent years, colloidal silver preparations of
unknown
formulation have been appearing in stores. These products are
labeled to
treat adults and children for diseases including HIV, AIDS, cancer,
tuberculosis, malaria, lupus, syphilis, scarlet fever, shingles,
herpes,
pneumonia, typhoid, tetanus and many others.
According to the Final Rule, a colloidal silver product for any drug
use
will first have to be approved by FDA under the new drug application
procedures. The Final rule classifies colloidal silver products as
misbranded because adequate directions cannot be written so that the
general
public can use these drugs safely for their intended purposes. They
are
also
misbranded when their labeling falsely suggests that there is
substantial
scientific evidence to establish that the drugs are safe and
effective
for
their intended uses.
The indiscriminate use of colloidal silver solutions has resulted in
cases
of argyria, a permanent blue-gray discoloration of the skin and deep
tissues.
Colloidal silver ingredients and silver salts include silver
proteins,
mild
silver protein, strong silver protein, silver chloride, and silver
iodide.
The dosage form of these colloidal silver products is usually oral,
but
product labeling also contains directions for topical and,
occasionally,
intravenous use.
In reaching its decision, FDA considered all of the information
described in
the proposed rule (October 15, 1996) and submitted by the public in
response
to that proposal, the Final Rule becomes effective on September 16,
1999, 30
days after publication.
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