Has this been tried with spinal cord problems ?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Trem 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 1:50 PM
  Subject: CS>Cancer - what would you do?


  Hi Jan,

  Here you go.  The excerpts are from his books "The Body Electric" and "Cross 
Currents".  This is powerful information and it has worked on all the cancers 
we have tried it on.  I'm eager to try it on any type cancer to see if it works 
in all cases.

  Best regards,

  Trem

  The Body Electric Chapter 8 Page 178

  At this time, therefore, I must conclude that high-current electrodes might 
enhance the growth of any preexisting tumor cells in the electrical path-unlike 
low-current silver, which when negative had no effect on, and when positive 
suspended  mitosis of cancer cells in our lab.

  Page 224 The Body Electric

   In my group's experiments with human fibrosarcoma cells in vitro, negative 
and positive currents both speeded up growth by over 300 percent. On the other 
hand, as mentioned in Chapter 8, we found that we could suspend mitosis in the 
fibrosarcoma cells with silver ions injected by minute levels of positive 
current. During one day of exposure, the cells appeared to dedifferentiate 
completely, and they stopped dividing for a month without additional treatment, 
even though we changed the nutrient medium regularly. Obviously, this entire 
subject needs to be investigated more thoroughly.


  Robert O. Becker M.D.


  Pages 164-166 cross currents 
      By Dr. Robert O. Becker

   "In each case, the nonunions healed even faster than they would have if 
negative electrical currents had been used. In addition, the soft tissues and 
skin healed at the same extraordinary rate. The electrically generated silver 
ion was doing something more than killing bacteria-it was also causing major 
growth stimulation of tissues in the wound.

  When we finally tracked down exactly what was happening, we found that as 
human fibroblast cells (which are common throughout the body) were exposed to 
the electrically generated silver ions, they dedifferentiated. They were then 
able to multiply at a great rate, producing large numbers of primitive, 
embryonic cells in the wound even in patients over fifty years of age. These 
"uncommitted" cells were then able to differentiate into whatever cell types 
were needed to heal the wound. So what we were in fact doing was turning on 
regeneration in human tissues, which I had thought we would never be able to do.

  In our previous studies of regeneration, we had found that in human beings, 
only bone-marrow cells could dedifferentiate. Because there were so few such 
cells, we thought that any regeneration in human beings (other than fracture 
healing) was impossible. The dedifferentiation of the abundant fibroblast cells 
by electrically generated silver ions may provide us with the means to restore 
regeneration to human patients.
  While I was excited at this serendipitous discovery, my patients could have 
cared less how the wounds were healed. They were simply delighted at the fact 
that, at long last, a treatment had worked. Perhaps the most important moral in 
this story is that it demonstrates that no one can tell in advance what will 
happen in a scientific experiment.

  Electrochemical therapy for cancer

  Actually, this circuitous pathway led us back to one of our original aims, 
the control of cancer growth. If the electrically generated silver ion 
dedifferentiated normal human fibroblast cells, would it also dedifferentiate 
human cancer cells? If so, we would have a way to duplicate in human beings Dr. 
S. Meryl Rose's experiments with salamander cancers, in which dedifferentiated 
cancer cells redifferentiated as normal cells.

  A lack of funds, unfortunately, prevented us from completing this work. 
However, we did find that some human cancer cells in culture appeared to 
dedifferentiate when exposed to these silver ions.

  I also had a patient with a severe, chronic bone infection who had an 
associated cancer in the wound. He refused amputation, which would have been 
the treatment of choice, and insisted that I treat his infection with the 
silver technique. After three months, the infection was under control, and the 
cancer cells in the wound appeared to have changed back to normal. When I last 
heard from him, eight years after the treatment, he was still fine.

  It is important to realize that this is not simply an electrical effect, but 
the result of the combined action of the electrical voltage and the 
electrically generated silver ions. It is an electrochemical treatment. While 
we do not have firm evidence at this time, what probably happens is that the 
silver ion is shaped so as to connect with some receptor group on the surface 
of the cancer-cell membrane. After that connection is made, an 
electrical-charge transfer sends a signal to the nucleus of the cancer cell 
that activates the primitive-type genes, and the cell dedifferentiates. In that 
state it awaits instructions as to what it is to become. The process is exactly 
the same as that in Rose's experiments, except that in this case the 
dedifferentiation is caused by the unexpected action of the positive silver 
ions.

  This technique obviously requires more study before any clinical use can be 
made of its antitumor effect. However, it does appear to be a promising lead in 
an otherwise rather grim picture."


   

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jan Stoeten 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 10:02 AM
    Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>Cancer - what would you do?


    Helllo Trem,

    Thank you for your kind offer. As I am building a site for the sale of CS 
here in the Netherlands, it would be greatly appreciated if you could provide  
Dr. Becker's references. Should you (or anyone else for that matter) have 
information regarding CS that can be freely published on my new site, that 
would also be greatly appreciated. If so desired, references will be honored. 
Thank you in advance.
    [email protected] 

    All the best,
    Jan Stoeten, the Netherlands
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Trem 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 5:31 PM
      Subject: CS>Cancer - what would you do?


      I have mentioned this before but I guess it just doesn't stick in peoples 
minds.  Ionic silver causes cancer cells to dedifferentiate and turn back to 
normal cells in a very short period of time.  This was discovered by Dr. Robert 
O. Becker.  

      We have had tremendous success with our customers using CS to reverse 
cancers.  Some were on deaths door and are completely free of cancer.  And that 
was without resorting to any chemo or radiation.

      We also had success with animals so you cannot say it was the placebo 
effect.  Animals do not experience placebo effect.

      That's why I take about 6-8 ounces of 20+ PPM daily.  Since one out of 
three Americans will contract cancer in their lifetime I'm assuring myself I 
won't be one of them.

      I can provide the references from Dr. Becker if anyone is interested.  He 
published against the advice of his peers and paid the price by losing his 
grants and not long after his position and then finally retired.

      Trem
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Tom 
        To: [email protected] 
        Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 9:37 PM
        Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>Cancer - what would you do?


        I'd take matters into my own hands, allopathic doctors will tell you 
cancer
        can't be cured only treated. So I would go with alternative medicine. 
The
        allopathic medical way will only treat you until your insurance runs 
out and
        then let you die, and their is no comfort being treated with radiation, 
I
        have had family that have gone through the procedures and it is 
horrendous
        what they do to you. To them it's all about money. There are many
        alternative cancer treatments out there that "do work", being careful 
not to
        say that "C" word. Some words one might put in a google search to look 
for
        things that would be of help might be.

        Essiac Tea
        Colloidal Silver
        Burdock
        Red Raspberry
        Ellagic Acid
        Detoxification
        Laetrile or Vitamin B17
        Parasite Cleanse and Liver Flush

        If you really want to beat cancer or help someone that has it. You 
should
        suggest your own course of treatment, if your doctor refuses to treat 
you
        the way you would like, there is a thing called a patients bill of 
rights
        where the patient is legally allowed to dictate their own treatment. If 
you
        the medical professional of your choosing is against you doing this, 
seek
        out a Naturopath or Naturopathic Dr. , Nutritional Health Specialist or
        Herbalist.

        There is a lot of documentation out there on the subject. People need to
        take back their health for the medical field when it comes to chronic
        disease it is something that makes a lot of people alot of money and it
        doesn't need to be that way. It's really sad that people everyday are 
faced
        with this dilemma.


        Good Luck in your decision



        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: "The Hatzfeld's" <[email protected]>
        To: <[email protected]>
        Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:15 PM
        Subject: CS>Cancer - what would you do?


        > I'm curious, if you were told by the doctor you had cancer and they
        couldn't
        > do anything for you except to make you comfortable, what would you 
do? Or
        > what direction would you point a loved one in?
        >
        > Thanks in advance!!!
        >
        > Cindy
        >
        >
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