Hi Frank,

No contest with what you say.

Why, using  something made with 3 9 V batts,  I stopped  having formerly
frequent herpes simplex lesions and my lifelong Tinea Pedis went away?

No more gum disease.  Rapid healing of minor cuts and burns when used
topically.  Does it matter if it is silver chloride? 

Are those events just chance?  

Later, using HVAC and now MV pulsed DC,  I observe others having similar
results, including a particularly nasty case of Herpes.   Please comment. 

I very much respect your knowledge and experience, and do not mean to
present this as any sort of a challenge. 

JOH 



-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Key [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 3:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CS>


Jodi Waldman wrote:

> I had a telephone conversation with Frank Key.
> He told me that ionic colloidal silver - the type of CS that is made 
> by
all home CS generators,
> was basically useless according to his laboratory dish studies because
silver ions bind with
> sodium inside our bodies and become silver chloride, which is 
> ineffective.

I take exception to that statement.

I never told Jodi Waldman or any else that ionic silver was basically
useless. What I said was that silver ions will combine with chloride ions in
the human body and form silver chloride which is comparatively speaking far
less antimicrobial. Only the percentage of silver that is in the form of
particles will survive in the bloodstream and it is this silver that
performs the work of killing pathogens.

> He seems too smart to me *not* to know about metalloproteins and how 
> they
bind the silver ions
> for safe transport throughout the body.

I am aware that companies that produce ionic silver products make such a
claim. If such a mechanism actually worked for silver ions, why has no one
ever been able to demonstrate the existence of silver ions in the
bloodstream beyond the most minute concentration.

We challenge anyone to find measurable ionic silver circulating in the
bloodstream after ingesting ionic silver. If ionic silver were in the
bloodstream it would be detectable using an Ion Selective Electrode (ISE)
instrument. It is a simple experiment to perform; after ingesting ionic
silver, draw several blood samples at 30 minute intervals and do the ISE
test.

I have asked the person who makes the statements concerning metalloproteins
why ionic silver can not be found in the blood stream and he has no answer
and refuses to discuss the issue.

> Why doesn't the FDA appear to be restricting or harassing Professor 
> Key or
his company's presence,
> sales and claims online?

Our company is registered with the FDA as a manufacturer of dietary
supplements and as such our manufacturing facilities, laboratory, processes
and procedures have been fully inspected by the FDA. The most recent
inspection was in November 2003. The inspector was present two full days and
found no violations. We are even in compliance with the proposed FDA
regulations that have not yet been enacted into law.

Given all the companies that make ionic silver products it would seem that
somewhere there would be at least one individual or company that would step
up to the plate and demonstrate that their product can actually get into the
bloodstream. Where is the proof folks?

Frank Key
Colloidal Science Laboratory, Inc.



----- Original Message -----
From: Jodi Waldman Menard
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:07 PM
Subject: CS>


I had a telephone conversation with Frank Key.  He told me that ionic
colloidal silver - the type of CS that is made by all home CS generators,
was basically useless according to his laboratory dish studies because
silver ions bind with sodium inside our bodies and become silver chloride,
which is ineffective.  His position, and his credentials, dissuaded me from
believing I could buy a generator and make effective CS myself at home. That
- was before I joined this list, learned otherwise, and had a weird feeling
about the whole thing.  I didn't get the impression from Professor Key that
he was being dishonest when I spoke with him, but he does sell Mesosilver,
which is brown, mostly silver "particles" and therefore, according to him,
the only type of silver  that is effective inside of the body, as shown by
his out-of-the-body laboratory dish tests.  Professor Key may really believe
what he's saying, but then again, maybe not...(?)  He seems too smart to me
*not* to know about metalloproteins and how they bind the silver ions for
safe transport throughout the body.  It would certainly serve the
pharma-cartel and FDA's interests if people didn't believe in ionic silver's
effectiveness, wouldn't it?  Because then everyone would buy a generator and
stop getting sick, and conventional antibiotics would become obsolete.  Why
doesn't the FDA appear to be restricting or harassing Professor Key or his
company's presence, sales and claims online?  Is that another "Hmmm..." ??
Gee, I don't know.  Maybe I'm just going off the deep end here.  Just ignore
me.  (I mean no offense Professor Key - if you're out there.  Just dismiss
me as a paranoid conspiracy theorist.)

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