O.K. Trem,
Thank you.
Pavel H.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Trem" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 6:04 PM
Subject: CS>The Hanna PWT meter, conductivity vs. ppm values


> Hi Pavel,
>
> It turns out the PWT does double purpose.  It measures uS of the water and
> in my opinion measurements to a tenth of a microsiemen are plenty good.
> After all, this isn't rocket science.
>
> It then measures the ionic portion of the mix after the silver is put into
> the water.  It does not measure the metallic (colloidal) portion.  We then
> use a correction factor to estimate the total amount of silver.
>
> This is the best low cost instrument for our purpose.
>
> And yes, it will probably read differently in different solutions but that
> will not make any difference if you know the correction factor to use.  We
> know the typical correction factor for silver is to add 10-20% to the
> reading.  You would have to send samples of whatever else you wanted to
> establish a correction factor for to a laboratory for analysis.  You would
> then have the ability to determine that particular correction factor.
>
> We did it for silver at 2 different labs using atomic absorption
> spectophotometry and accept the results.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Trem
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pavel Hochmut" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 2:30 AM
> Subject: [silver_list] CS>The Hanna PWT meter, conductivity vs. ppm values
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I have looked for what the "PWT" means on the Hanna www.pages.
> > Both devices mentioned below are from Hanna and are designated for
> measuring
> > the conductivity. Both of them can ONLY measure the conductivity as
every
> > other ordinary conductometer does. There is nothing more.
> > The "PWT" only means "Purity Water Tester" and determinates the device
> rank
> > of accuracy in the spread of Hanna products. Nothing more.
> > Now I understand the words "I have never seen the PWT meter showing more
> > than one decimal place" (from Trem)... it´s correct, because it is it´s
> main
> > feature - the range of the Hannah HI98308 "PWT" meter is 99,9 - 0,1
> > micsoSiemens with the 0,1 microSiemens resolution.
> > If you look on the Hanna pages more carefuly, you can also find the
> HI98309
> > "UPW" meter (the UPW means Ultra Pure Water tester) with the range
1,000 -
> > 0,020 microSiemens with the resolution of 0,001 microsiemens.
> > So: who has the HI 98309 UPW model, he can measure the conductivity more
> > precisely having dvo decimal places more than with the PWT model. But
the
> > UPW model is approx. 3 times more expensive than the PWT one.
> > So, one who says: " I have measured my DW and it has 2,9 PWT tells it
> wrong.
> > Correctly should be said: 2,9 microSiemens (...measured with Hanna PWT
> > meter).
> > You can also see simple conductivity/resistance conversion charts on the
> > Hanna site as I already wrote about.
> > This reminds me that I saw posted some relation between the conductance
> and
> > ppm values. That seem to me incredible, because the substance (dissolved
> or
> > in the colloidal estate) may have different influence to conductance of
> the
> > (say) batch. For instance let´s put into the
> > 1 cubic cm (1 ccm) of DW 2,000.000 atoms of silver.
> > And put to another 1 cubic cm of DW 2.000.000 atoms of Si (silicium). I
> bet
> > my year´s income, that the resulting conductance measurements shall be
> > absolutely different. I swear.
> > Or can somebody mend my opinion? Where´s the mistake?
> > Thanks Pavel H.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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