Hi Marshal:

Not necessarily.

Natural-Immunogenics also uses Agar as the medium which they run all of
their anti-microbial tests.  Sovereign Silver and Argentyn 23 doesn't have
one bit of a problem with the medium; the same can be said for Trem's
Silvergen silver, 'ole Bob's as well.  Hard to say

ASAP has always tested out as a mediocre silver product in the direct
time-kill study comparisons I'm aware of.

Best Regards,

Jason


----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Dudley" <mdud...@king-cart.com>
To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:26 AM
Subject: Re: CS>[Fwd: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against
Probiotics...]


> Then the test was a waste of time and money. It is very well known by
anyone who
> has researched it at all, that CS is virtually totally ineffective in
agar.  It
> has nothing to do with probiotics vs. non-probiotics. The only reason I
can see
> they would have done that test is to try and intentionally deceive those
who may
> not know this.
>
> Marshall
>
> Jason Eaton wrote:
>
> > Hi Marshal:
> >
> > Thanks for that.  Upon referencing the orginal report:
> >
> > GYEA and TA were used - ( GYEA is a glucose/yeast agar )
> >
> > - Jason
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Marshall Dudley" <mdud...@king-cart.com>
> > To: <silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:56 AM
> > Subject: Re: CS>[Fwd: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against
> > Probiotics...]
> >
> > > I suspect they had no idea what they were doing in the test, or did
the
> > test
> > > purposefully to try and make it look like CS does not kill probiotics.
> > >
> > > Is there any information on how the test was run?  I suspect that they
> > used agar
> > > for the test, and as we all know, and my own tests several years ago
> > confirm, CS
> > > will not inhibit growth of ANYTHING when it is immobilized like that.
> > Correct
> > > tests can ONLY be done in a thin broth.  All our tests show 100% kill
of
> > all
> > > organisms in broth, and 0% kill of all organisms in gelled agar.
> > >
> > > Marshall
> > >
> > > James Holmes wrote:
> > >
> > > > My initial un-thought-out response was;
> > > >
> > > > "India...what are they trying to sell..."
> > > >
> > > > Putting that aside,  I think there was some flaw.  No other tests
have
> > found
> > > > this to be true.  The only reference I can come up with is the
comments
> > of
> > > > Dr. Bart A. Flick, the principal inventor of "Silverlon".  He said,
"We
> > have
> > > > not found a bacteria that it does not kill".   It is an assumption
on my
> > > > part that the gut bacteria in this story were included in the tests.
> > > >
> > > > JOH
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Garnet [mailto:garnetri...@earthlink.net]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:43 AM
> > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > > > Subject: CS>[Fwd: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against
> > Probiotics...]
> > > >
> > > > Here ya go Marshall...
> > > >
> > > > -----Forwarded Message-----
> > > > From: Jason / AVRA <silverdatawebs...@hotmail.com>
> > > > To: silverdatawebs...@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against Probiotics...
> > > > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:43:48 -0700
> > > >
> > > > Greetings, everyone:
> > > >
> > > > Bob Manfull was kind enough to forward me a copy demonstrating the
> > selective
> > > > inaction of ASAP on Probiotics.  Laboratory testing was done by
Viridis
> > Bio
> > > > Pharma out of India in March.
> > > >
> > > > ASAP was tested against Lactobacillus acidophillus, Bifidobacterium
> > longum,
> > > > and two probiotic products:  Lactisyn and Kyo-Dophilus.
> > > >
> > > > ASAP at 10 PPM and at 22 PPM did not inhibit the growth of any of
the
> > above.
> > > >
> > > > Lactisyn contains Lactobacillus lactis, Lactobacillus acidophilus,
> > > > Streptococcus lactis, and Streptococcus thermophilus.
> > > >
> > > > Kyo-Dophilus contains Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bifidobacterium
> > bifidum,
> > > > and Bifidobacterium longum.
> > > >
> > > > These test results present a million unanswered questions, and
should be
> > > > confirmed by other parties capable of doing so.
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Jason
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