Agar will work if it is kept in a liquid state, or if the test is on the
surface. But if it is like gelled jello, and the test is for inside of the agar,
our tests always showed CS was ineffective, just like in the intestines.

Marshall

Jason Eaton wrote:

> Hi Marshal:
>
> Not necessarily.
>
> Natural-Immunogenics also uses Agar as the medium which they run all of
> their anti-microbial tests.  Sovereign Silver and Argentyn 23 doesn't have
> one bit of a problem with the medium; the same can be said for Trem's
> Silvergen silver, 'ole Bob's as well.  Hard to say
>
> ASAP has always tested out as a mediocre silver product in the direct
> time-kill study comparisons I'm aware of.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Jason
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 11:26 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>[Fwd: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against
> Probiotics...]
>
> > Then the test was a waste of time and money. It is very well known by
> anyone who
> > has researched it at all, that CS is virtually totally ineffective in
> agar.  It
> > has nothing to do with probiotics vs. non-probiotics. The only reason I
> can see
> > they would have done that test is to try and intentionally deceive those
> who may
> > not know this.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > Jason Eaton wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Marshal:
> > >
> > > Thanks for that.  Upon referencing the orginal report:
> > >
> > > GYEA and TA were used - ( GYEA is a glucose/yeast agar )
> > >
> > > - Jason
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 10:56 AM
> > > Subject: Re: CS>[Fwd: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against
> > > Probiotics...]
> > >
> > > > I suspect they had no idea what they were doing in the test, or did
> the
> > > test
> > > > purposefully to try and make it look like CS does not kill probiotics.
> > > >
> > > > Is there any information on how the test was run?  I suspect that they
> > > used agar
> > > > for the test, and as we all know, and my own tests several years ago
> > > confirm, CS
> > > > will not inhibit growth of ANYTHING when it is immobilized like that.
> > > Correct
> > > > tests can ONLY be done in a thin broth.  All our tests show 100% kill
> of
> > > all
> > > > organisms in broth, and 0% kill of all organisms in gelled agar.
> > > >
> > > > Marshall
> > > >
> > > > James Holmes wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > My initial un-thought-out response was;
> > > > >
> > > > > "India...what are they trying to sell..."
> > > > >
> > > > > Putting that aside,  I think there was some flaw.  No other tests
> have
> > > found
> > > > > this to be true.  The only reference I can come up with is the
> comments
> > > of
> > > > > Dr. Bart A. Flick, the principal inventor of "Silverlon".  He said,
> "We
> > > have
> > > > > not found a bacteria that it does not kill".   It is an assumption
> on my
> > > > > part that the gut bacteria in this story were included in the tests.
> > > > >
> > > > > JOH
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Garnet [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 8:43 AM
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: CS>[Fwd: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against
> > > Probiotics...]
> > > > >
> > > > > Here ya go Marshall...
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Forwarded Message-----
> > > > > From: Jason / AVRA <[email protected]>
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: [ silvermedicine.org ] ASAP Tested against Probiotics...
> > > > > Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 12:43:48 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > > Greetings, everyone:
> > > > >
> > > > > Bob Manfull was kind enough to forward me a copy demonstrating the
> > > selective
> > > > > inaction of ASAP on Probiotics.  Laboratory testing was done by
> Viridis
> > > Bio
> > > > > Pharma out of India in March.
> > > > >
> > > > > ASAP was tested against Lactobacillus acidophillus, Bifidobacterium
> > > longum,
> > > > > and two probiotic products:  Lactisyn and Kyo-Dophilus.
> > > > >
> > > > > ASAP at 10 PPM and at 22 PPM did not inhibit the growth of any of
> the
> > > above.
> > > > >
> > > > > Lactisyn contains Lactobacillus lactis, Lactobacillus acidophilus,
> > > > > Streptococcus lactis, and Streptococcus thermophilus.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kyo-Dophilus contains Lactobacillus acidophilus, Bifidobacterium
> > > bifidum,
> > > > > and Bifidobacterium longum.
> > > > >
> > > > > These test results present a million unanswered questions, and
> should be
> > > > > confirmed by other parties capable of doing so.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jason
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