It sounds very much like Demodectic Mange. It is caused by a mite that
is on all dogs but due to immune deficiency some dogs can not keep under
control. It is common to see a bit in young dogs whose immune systems
are still maturing but whose maternal antibodies have fallen off. It is
also know as the Red Mange. Severely impaired dogs may show it at 6-8
weeks and some do not recover.

It is very interesting if it is Demodex and CS controls it. Although it
can be difficult to isolate by skin scraping, because it burrows deep
into the skin and subdermis, this is one way to confirm. The other is by
physical exam and medical history, which is how most astute vets will
diagnose it. The not so astute resort to steroids. There are dips for it
but they are very liver toxic, be very careful if you decide to go this
route.

Ivermectin also kills the mite and is used off label by some vets for
the difficult cases orally and topically. Do not do this without knowing
how much is too much as ten times the therapeutic dose, or in collie
breeds even less, will cross the Blood Brain Barrier and kill the dog.

The "other" mange mite is Sarcoptic Mite and is easier to kill, it is
generally a different pattern though and a bit easier to detect on skin
scraping but both can easily be missed. Mites are not insects but
Arthropods and harder to kill than insects. Old remedies included
smothering them by coating the dog with old motor oil. <yikes> But if
the dog survived sometimes it worked.

The features of Demodex are the hairlessness around the eyes and the red
rash on her belly and legs. It is usually more symmetrical and Sarcoptic
is more on the body, generally, asymmetrical.

If you do decide to get a skin scraping to confirm this and CS continues
to control it please post this to the list under a subject heading of
Mange so it is easily searchable.

Steroids are not at all useful and in fact will suppress her immunity
even further. How old is she? Does she have any reason to be immune
suppressed? Is she inbred? Stressed or have other physical or
environmental immune suppressors? 

I have seen this in a whole litter of inbred puppies starting with the
hair loss around the eyes are 6 weeks of age. If I can be of further
help please feel free to email me privately if you wish.

Good Luck!

Garnet

On Sun, 2004-05-02 at 02:05, Marie Hofman wrote:
> My dog gets this funny thing ...nobody knows what it is,  but when it
> happens I usually  take her to the vet and $70 later (after giving her
> steroids) she would come right.  Now I have a CS generator and make my
> own,  I have dowsed her with it.  What happens is ... she goes bald
> around her eyes,  making her look quite strange and all the hair
> around her eyes drops out,  then she gets a real bad rash under her
> legs and on her tummy.  She goes through hell scratching etc and cant
> bear it,  an allergy of somesort I guess.  However,  since dowsing
> with CS a couple of times a week she is looking well ... shining and
> beautiful, no rash no baldness around the eyes,  also I put it in her
> drinking water.  What a saving. what a relief for her. 
> 
> Thanks for the silver (and for the List)
> 
> Marie.  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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