Thanks Marshall. That's what I thought but couldn't seem to convince the fellow. I knew the colloids could be seen via the Tyndall effect but also knew that an atom is too small to reflect any light so I was still at an impasse as far as whether the atoms were dissolved or not.
I'm pretty sure he won't be convinced. Oh well. Trem ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 11:38 AM Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>Dissolved ions > Anything that is mixed with water and does not precipitate out must be either dissolved > or a stable colloid. Colloids can generally be detected by Tyndall effect, > and the ions > are not colloid. I think another definition is that colloids can be removed > via > centrafuge, whereas dissolved substances cannot. Once again, I believe that > the ions > meet the definition for being dissolved. > > His comment that an atom is an atom has no bearing, we are not talking about > an atom, but > an ion. For instance, common salt breaks down into a sodium ion and a > chlorine ion when > it is dissolved in water. > > Marshall > > Trem wrote: > > > Hi List, > > > > Something has been bothering me for some time and recently I got into a > > friendly > > discussion regarding ions and colloids. I said the silver ions were > > dissolved in the > > water. He said that was not true....an ion was an atom missing an electron > > in the > > outer ring or one with an additional electron in the ring. He went on to > > state that > > the atom was still an atom and was not dissloved but just in intimate > > contact with > > and intimitely surrounded by the water. He stated that the atom does not dissolve by > > being in the water. > > > > I tried to look it up but am not a chemist or physiscist so this is way > > over my head. > > I did see a couple of sites that showed an artist rendition of an atom > > surrounded by > > water but not dissolved even though by definition it was called "dissolved". > > > > I saw many CS sites that say the ions are dissolved but I suspect many of > > them are > > just spouting what they saw on another CS site so I would like a definitive simple > > explanation if anyone can give it. > > > > Thanks. > > > > Trem > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > > OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
