Hi Marsall:

I've been following everyone's analysis of the h2o2 silver issue with
interest.

There appears to be a great problem when trying to theoretically analyze the
chemical equation associated with the silver h2o2 reactions.

To sum the problem up, there are different reactions that occur depending on
the attributes of the silver product used.

In other words, when I make CS using the old coyote silver generator, I get
a markedly different end product than if I use silver made with Trem's SG7.

Awhile back, I got into a lengthly discussion with an individual involved in
the water purification industry.

His contemporaries felt that it was absolutely ludicrous  to even consider
that h2o2 caused an atomization/ionization of silver particles.  They use
hydrogen peroxide to reclaim silver from waste waters.  The hydrogen
peroxide causes...all of the silver... to fall out of suspension ( become
insoluable ).

Considering all of my practical experience with the H2O2 silver combination,
this obviously through me for a loop.

An associate on another list took a sample of CS, and then CS with H2O2
added ( same batch ) down to a local water processing plant.  A friend took
an SEM ( I believe ) of the "before and after", and the resulting images
strongly indicated that the H2O2 was reducing the silver agglomerates.  The
results, at any rate, were significant enough to convince the technical
staff that the H2O2 was indeed resulting in a reaction producing smaller
silver particles.

My only guess at the moment, is that the colloidal portion of an IES product
is acting as a catalyst to enduce a reaction that otherwise would not
happen.  Is it the kenetic force ( or the zeta potential ) that keeps the
silver "in suspension"?

One thing I do know:

If one utilizes a high quality EIS, about 5 PPM, with a particulate content
of about 5%, the H2O2 will ionize all the silver, and the H2O2 will
stabilize in solution.  I utilized peroxide testing strips to "follow" the
reactions.

If one creates an EIS with larger agglomerates, small flakes, etc., it is
very easy to see the non-soluble silver settle out on the bottom of the
container.

Also, taking what certainly appears to be a stable H2O2 silver combination,
and adding it to "drinking water" can also result in the silver falling out
of suspension within a few days.

Aside from that, I can say that more than one life has been saved by the
silver h2o2 combination utilized to treat out of control mouth infections.

I assisted one individual for a year.  It took that long for the individual
to save up the money to have the root teeth problems taken care of.

My favorite "immediate use" combination?  ... is to brew a very strong
"yellow" batch of CS with nearly boiling water, using a current limited
generator and water aggitation.  I first brew a batch of about 10PPM EIS
using the Silver Puppy old model.  Then, I switch to a modified version of
the Silver Puppy Generator; one that does not have the auto-shut down, and
one with a potentiometer wired in ( my thanks to KEN!!! ).

I apply a significant amount of heat, keeping the brew just below boiling,
and I continually reduce the current flow into the water.  If able, I
continue this process for about four or five hours.

Then, I immediately add 2 to 4 drops of 35% H2o2 to 4 ounces of this brew.
The moment the H2o2 hits the EIS, it boils.  I wait about two or three
minutes, then administer the concoction.

This is something one does not want to "swallow" for at least three to five
minutes ( in other words, the silver is held in mouth ).  Swallowing the
combination too soon will result in the upset stomach commonly associated
with oral h2o2 use.  This is not necessary, as we're not trying to deliver
H2o2 into the stomach.

I developed this method when everything else ( including EIS alone ) failed
to arrest a deep and life threatening infection in a mouth.

Best Regards,

Jason








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