CS>H2O2 and CS
From: Marshall Dudley
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2004 13:04:44
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m74747.html
Hi Marshall,
Good to see the old mind is still ticking over:) I added a few
comments that might help clarify some of the issues.
> Here is a theory as to why when H2O2 is added to CS, the tyndall
> goes away and it seems to be very potentiated.
The effect of H2O2 depends on many things, such as oxide content,
temperature of the solution, amount of H2O2 added, etc. So the
Tyndall may or may not disappear completely.
The improvement in effectiveness depends on how much oxide is
converted to ions. The reports of extreme improvement (such as a
factor of 1,000) are highly exaggerated. The actual improvment may
be on the order of 10% to 20% or so, depending on the initial
conditions.
> H2O2 reacts with the silver in the particles producing Ag2O and
> H2O.
The particles are already various forms of oxides and are generated
in the Nernst diffusion layer next to the electrodes. Here are the
basic equations:
At the anode, a silver atom gives up an electron to become an ion.
Ag(s) - e --> Ag(+)
At the cathode, water dissociates and hydrogen ions accept electrons
to form hydrogen gas:
H2O --> H(+) + OH(-)
2H(+) + 2e --> H2(g)
So for every silver ion, one hydroxyl ion is produced.
The ions diffuse throughout the solution, mainly by convection
currents. I posted two experiments earlier that show how to make
these ions visible:
CS> Making Ions Visible
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61491.html
Re: CS> Making Ions Visible
http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m61527.html
The significance of these experiments is that the two ion clouds
passed through each other without combining to form oxides. The
reason is the ions have to be very close to each other and headed
almost directly towards each other before they will combine. This
requires a very high density of ions to give a reasonable
probability they will combine. The only place this occurs is in the
Nernst Diffusion layer close to each electrode.
When the ion concentration of both species is high enough, the
silver ions combine with the hydroxyl ions to form silver oxides.
There are at least two paths:
Path #1:
One silver ion combines with one hydroxyl ion to form silver
hydroxide:
Ag(+) + OH(-) --> AgOH (silver hydroxide)
The silver hydroxide dissociates to form silver oxide particles:
2AgOH --> Ag2O + H2O (silver oxide)
Path #2:
Two silver ions combine with two hydroxyl ions to form silver oxide:
2Ag(+) + 2OH(-) --> Ag2O + H2O
This shows why high current density produces more oxide content. The
Nernst diffusion layer is more concentrated at high current density.
It also shows why reversing electrode polarity and using AC instead
of DC produces so much oxide. When the polarity reverses, the Nernst
diffusion layer already has a high concentration of the opposite
species, so oxide formation begins immediately.
When you add H2O2 to the resulting solution, some of the oxide is
converted back to ions:
Ag2O + H2O2 --> 2Ag(+) + O2 + H2O
2AgOH + H2O2 --> 2Ag(+) + O2 + 2H2O
This increases the effectiveness since more silver ions are
available to kill bugs.
> 2H2O2 then reacts with the Ag2O producing 2Ag and O2 and H2O. The
> 2Ag are monatomic but form a Cooper pair between them,
A Cooper pair requires charged particles in a superconducting medium
that strain the nearby lattice. Besides the fact your previous
analysis was incorrect, silver atoms carry no charge and thus cannot
form a Cooper pair. Also, this effect requires tempoerature at or
below liquid nitrogen, which means the water would be frozen solid.
Pure frozen dw is nonconductive, and none of the noble metals are
superconductors.
> and the group of all the monoatomic silver atoms form a
> distributed Bose-Einstein Condensate.
This occurs only a temperatures within a millionth of a degree or so
from absolute zero. Not your average home environment.
> This results in a form of superconductivity on a small scale,
Nope.
> which would increase the catalytic and electron donation
> capability of silver by a huge amount.
Nope. Not even related. Only ions have any biological activity.
> So what could be happening is that this addition of H2O2 is
> creating monatomic silver, which along with monatomic gold and
> mercury are reported to have unexpected physical and health
> properties.
I'm sure you do not want to take mercury in any form. As far as
monoatomic silver, from images and analysis on a Kodak site, it
likes to form clusters of 6 atoms or more. I doubt many people have
the equipment needed to determine how many atoms are in a group, and
it would be difficult to prove any benefit is obtained without very
comprehensive analysis.
> See some of the work by David Hudson on monatomic gold and silver
> properties and benefits for more information on this.
I did a brief google on Hudson. Sounds like more junk science to me.
> Just an idea to consider.
> Marshall
Best Wishes,
Mike Monett
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