Yes, but the amount of silver in a glassful of 5 ppm EIS is so minute, the
effect should be virtually non-existant.

Marshall

David W Kenney wrote:

> Ionic Silver would benefit gastric ulcers merely by acting similar to an
> antacid.  Ag+ + Cl- > AgCl thereby reducing acidity which is causing some of
> the pain and aggravating the ulcer.
>
> Dr. Kenney
> PS:  Interesting experiment.
> How are you measuring CS concentration (ionic vs colloidal?)
>
> OK, I have started the milk experiment.  I have some preliminary
> results, but am surprised at the results.
>
> Here is the test setup:
>
> 1. Milk stated out initially at about 2 C. (35 F).
> 2. ambient temperature is 20 C (69 F).
> 3. 2 oz. of 2% milk was added to all the glasses.
> 4. one teaspoon (.167 oz) of test substance was added to each glass,
> except the first one.
> 5. The first 3 glasses were slightly larger diameter than the last 3.
> 6. The ionic has about 1/2 the ion content of the original EIS and about
> 1/14 the particle content of the original EIS and was generated via
> freezing.
>
> Here are the results thus far, times are length of time to clabbering,
> longer is better:
>
> 1. Plain milk - 42 hours
> 2. EIS added - 51 hours
> 3. EIS with a pinch of salt added - 42 hours
> 4. Ionic silver added - 60 hours
> 5. colloidal silver added - not yet clabbered but stated 24 hours later
> 6. EIS + H2O2 added - same as 5
>
> Now, the last two were started 24 hours later to allow the EIS with salt
> added to settle out in the fridge. Not all had settled, so #5 was
> additionally filtered with filter paper.
>
> #6 was done at the same time as #5 although using EIS because I did not
> think of doing that earlier. They are both about 38 hours into the
> experiment right now.
>
> Now, the results I got are at the least stunning! I am planning on
> repeating as soon as I can, and I hope someone else will repeat it as
> well.  I cannot figure out the results at all!  It appears that the
> colloidal part of the EIS not only does nothing at all, but actually
> retards the ionic portion from working! On top of that it seems that
> adding a pinch of salt makes the EIS no different than plain milk with
> nothing added!  Keep in mind that the ionic #4 was about 50% as strong
> as the ionic portion of the EIS as determinated with adding salt to it
> and the titrating the original EIS to get the same milkyness at the
> original EIS, yet was more effective than the original EIS.
>
> This raises several questions.  First, if adding NaCl to form silver
> chloride makes the EIS ineffective, then how the heck does EIS work for
> both stomach ulcers, food poisoning, and anything else internal.
> Unfortunately I have no answer for that one, I need to do some more
> testing.  My guess is that with something in the stomach, other things
> happen, maybe the silver reacts with the bacteria, or proteins before or
> instead of it forming silver chloride.  As far a when it gets in the
> blood, the best guess at this time is that it becomes fulminating silver
> when it reaches the blood, then becomes pairs of silver particles when
> it reacts with glucose in the blood.  This can be tested for as well.
>
> But these results are so far out of line with what I would expect, I
> want to rerun the tests, and hopefully have someone else run them as
> well to verify.  Maybe some of the glasses were contaminated with
> bacteria that the others were not, so some got a head start.  When I
> rerun the test I plan on letting the milk sit out for 12 hours before
> dividing, and using alcohol to disinfect each of the glasses to minize
> initial conditions affecting the results.  Also the first 3 glasses are
> slightly larger diameter than the last 3, so they would have had more
> air exposure. Although I did put paper towels over all the glasses to
> keep out dust, maybe the additional oxygen from increased surface area
> allowed the bacteria to replicate faster.  That is one more reason to do
> it all again.
>
> So keep in mind this is preliminary, until we confirm it with additional
> experiments don't take it as gospel.  It is entirely possible I screwed
> up somehow.
>
> Marshall
>
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