Hi All!

Yes...  While I don't consider ASAP to be the best thing that has ever
happened to CS production, I can say that they do take the time to at least
test their product, and, in the end, it is an EIS product that does work.
They have some good and informed key distributors which I am in contact with
often, and the key bulk distributors are very decent and caring people.
Many of the "real life" results that they occasionally forward to me are
impressive-- but not unexpected with any decent isolated silver product.

They've done some good work with the EPA, and while I haven't been overly
impressed with the independent lab studies that I've seen ( outside of the
work done by BYU ), I believe their product has, ultimately, been quite good
for the "colloidal silver" cause... Unlike MANY of the CS marketeers out
there.

Best Regards,

Jason

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: CS>New and improved CS


> At 03:11 PM 1/19/2005 -0800, you wrote:
> >
> > Hi List,
> >
> >Check this one.  Anybody have any knowledge about what they're doing that
> >enhances the CS?  Or do you think it's hype?
> >
> >Trem
>
> I'd be be looking for independent verification and specific claims.
>  ASAP isn't especially known for full disclosure and maximum
truthfullness.
>  Most everything I've read that was written by that bunch, including this
> piece, was designed to 'not' inform while appearing to say something
> meaningful.
> "when compared to other silver products" [Which other silver products? It
> doesn't say 'all' other or 'any particular' other, either.  Stated that
> way, if it's better than ANY other, the statement is true.]
>
> Professor Rustum Roy... is who's scientist?
>
>  A patent application isn't a patent grant and a patent grant doesn't mean
> it's any good if scrutinized.
>  The patent office doesn't engage in very much scrutiny.
>  These things are more about intimidation and bragging rights claims than
> anything else.
>  If any attempt at honesty is being made, the patent numbers will be
> prominant.
> Keyword searches in the patent office archives generally bring up hundreds
> of nearly identical patents whos only differences amount to useless
> insertions and unverified assertions.
>
> Ode
>
>
> >Clifton Mining Company - New Discoveries Lead To New Patents Filed
> >    ALPINE, UT, Jan. 19 /CNW/ - Clifton Mining Company
(Clifton)(OTC:CFTN)
> >announces that American Biotech Labs, a private company in which Clifton
> >holds
> >over 1.5 million shares, has recently filed a new patent application
> >containing new and exciting data and results. Laboratory work from
several
> >US-based institutions, has verified that American Biotech Labs' silver
> >products possess some very unique and important physical properties which
> >appear to be quite different from other commercially available colloidal
> >silvers. Further, significant new uses and product modifications have
also
> >been discovered and included in the patent filing.
> >
> >    Unique Fingerprint
> >    ------------------
> >
> >    Work completed so far indicates that American Biotech Labs' products
are
> >distinguishable from every other silver product tested. The unique
> >structure/composition of the products inherently result from the already
> >patented process. This unique structure/composition seems to result in a
> >different efficacy of the silver products, when compared to existing
> >colloidal
> >silvers. The work was headed by the leading materials science laboratory
in
> >the world at the Pennsylvania State University, and was personally led by
> >Professor Rustum Roy, regarded as one of the top materials scientists in
the
> >world. Testing was also performed by distinguished scientists at Arizona
> >State
> >University (and other locations), all of which were under the direction
of
> >Professor Roy. This work, may help explain why American Biotech Labs'
> >products
> >are so much more effective as antimicrobials, at very low concentration
> >levels
> >of silver, when compared to other silver products, some of which contain
> >hundreds of times higher silver concentrations. This characterization
work
> >is
> >ongoing and should result in an ever better understanding of why the
> >products
> >of American Biotech Labs are superior, and could also provide new
pathways
> >for
> >potential product improvements. Said Keith Moeller, VP, "We are delighted
> >with
> >this new patent application, we believe it dramatically strengthens our
> >patent
> >protection."
> >
> >    Clifton trades on the U.S. OTC: (CFTN).
> >
> >    Note: Any statements released by Clifton Mining Company that are
forward
> >looking are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private
> >Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Editors and investors are
> >cautioned
> >that forward looking statements invoke risk and uncertainties that may
> >affect
> >the company's business prospects and performance.
> >
> >
> >
> >For further information: Dr. Ken Friedman, President at (303) 642-0659,
> >Keith Moeller, Vice President at (801) 756-1414 or see our
> >website at www.cliftonmining.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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