I tend to agree with what Tony has indicated. Slowing the rate of flow of water through an ionizer can only make the resultant water more ionized, not less ionized.
There may be a problem with the first filter putting something into the water. There may be something in the water (from either the well or the filter) that is affecting the electrodes of the water ionizer causing them to ionize less efficiently. Maybe your Singer machine is just plain broken... Leaving the water out overnight for the CO2 to dissipate will only work before the water is ionized. You should ionize it after it sits out. Test the plain untreated well water before and after letting it sit out. If you let alkaline water sit out it will get more acidic, at least that's what I remember from ionizer literature I read. Get the water tested, and go from there. You'll want to know what is in it anyway... Dan Re: CS>Requested: advice on water from chemistry-minded folks From: Tony Moody (view other messages by this author) Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:05:58 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Nenah, May you be very happy in your new home. Have you tried connecting well water straight into the Ionizer? To test whether the filter is the culprit. I can think of two potential problems. 1/ Something has got into the ionizer causing a problem, possibly blocking a port or covering an electrode or sensor. 2/ The new filter is functionally different so that the water leaving the filter is now strongly buffered by passing through the filter. I can only imagine that slowing the water flow would cause the electrolysis process to be 'better' or 'stronger' hth, Tony On 6 Feb 2005 at 19:57, Nenah Sylver wrote: > Dear People, > I have a challenge with my water system and would like your input, > especially from the chemistry-minded folk of this list. > > In November I moved my home and office 6 miles to an even more remote > country location. The house's water supply is fed by a well. The > water's pH tests at around 6.2, much too acidic to drink (it should be > at least a neutral 7.0). > > As with my prior location, the water purification setup at my new > locale consists of two countertop water treatment units. The first is > a simple filter with coconut shell, to remove the particulate matter > -- and save wear and tear on the second water unit. The second water > unit is a Singer Ionizer Plus, which electrolizes the water and sends > the acid and alkaline fluids to separate chambers. You drink the > alkaline water and use the acidic water externally (the skin is acidic > and really benefits from the acid water). At my new location, the > electrolyzed water initially tested from about 7.2 to 8.6, depending > on the low or high settings of the Singer electrolysis system. The > alkaline water tasted sweet and felt smooth. > > However, then we needed to replace the cartridge in Unit #1. The > company that makes the first unit redesigned the cartridge and now > we're having water problems. The mouth on both ends of the cartridge > is much narrower than before. Presumably, this has lowered the > pressure of the water flowing into the Singer. So now, even with the > Singer unit on the highest setting, the water's pH doesn't get much > higher than 6.6. > > The manufacturer of Unit #1 (the one that changed the cartridge) > doesn't want to talk to us because we're not a large account. But > someone at the Singer dealership did talk to us. We were told that > well water is tricky to test for pH, because often there's carbonic > acid (dissolved carbon dioxide) in the water. The remedy, the company > rep continued, is to let the water sit overnight so the carbon dioxide > can dissipate -- and THEN test the water the next morning. > > So I followed their advice. I electrolyzed the water at the second > setting and the highest setting, let the two containers of water sit > overnight, and then retested the pH the next morning. There was no > difference between the night before and the next morning. The highest > pH was still about 6.6. > > Here are the mysteries: > > 1) Why would changing the water pressure (narrowing the mouth of the > cartridge on Machine #1) create a difference in pH? > > 2) Why didn't the carbon dioxide escape from the open water? > > 3) If the carbon dioxide didn't escape from the open water, it's > possible that the acidic readings weren't the result of carbonic acid. > If not, what was creating the acid? > > All this leads to yet another issue: > > Obviously, we're going to filter our water to get rid of sediment and > chemicals. But drinking acidic water is out of the question. What can > we put into the water to raise the pH? > > I experimented with putting 50% concentrated pharmaceutical grade > potassium hydroxide into the acidic water. I had to use at least four > drops to get the water to an acceptably alkaline level (it only gets > to about 7.2)..But now there is an unpleasant taste to the water. > > I really liked using the Singer when the results were working. > Alkaline water is wonderfully sweet and has great energy. But any > water electrolysis unit produces results that are only as good as the > water that feeds it. > > My only other option is to make distilled water, and add minerals to > it for drinking. Technically, distilled water has a pH of 7.0 because > it doesn't contain minerals. However, in reality this rarely is the > case, because as soon as distilled water is exposed to the air it > violently reacts with carbon dioxide and becomes acidic. For instance, > I once tested the pH of distilled water that was freshly made with a > friend's distiller, and the pH was only 6.2. > > Nevertheless, I ordered a distiller and expect it next week. I don't > know what pH this unit will create. Hopefully, the pH will be closer > to 7.0 than not. Even if the pH is 6.8, it's exponentially *much* > better than even 6.6 -- and I'll be able to add *less* potassium > hydroxide to get it to the pH I want. > > However, I don't know the ramifications of drinking potassium > hydroxide on a regular basis. I figure that if the water tastes bad, > that's an indicator that something is wrong. > > So your intelligent suggestions are welcome. (All you Sherlock Holmes > chemists, put on your thinking caps! > > I hope I have been clear in explaining the situation. Thanks in > advance for your help. > > Nenah > > Nenah Sylver, PhD > author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing > and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy > http://www.nenahsylver.com > Holistic health products, supplements and services > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 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