Well, I'll probably get flamed but here goes....

There is not much your daughter can do.  Your Granddaughter doesn't mess
with daddy because she knows daddy won't put up with it.  Your daughter on
the other hand does put up with her shenanigans.  My mother used to tell us
that if you don't get your children to respect you by age 13 they never
will.  My mom was very strict but very loving.

When my son was 4 years old he got mad at me, raised both fists and shook
them at me with the most hateful look I have ever seen.  At first I was
heartbroken that this cute little sweet baby would do that.  Then I realized
that if I didn't nip it in the bud at 4, he would be hitting me at 14.  So I
could have run off crying and lamenting that my 4 year old hated me or.... I
could do what I did and wore his hind end out with a hickory.  He has never
done it since, and is the most loving sweet boy of 10 years old.  He
recently had to see a psychologist for a reading disability.  The
psychologist congratulated me on such a nice well mannered child.  Of course
I said that my son is naturally a great kid (he is) but the psychologist
stopped me and said "no, Mrs. Fields, that doesn't happen on accident."  And
you know what?  He is right.

It could be mental illness, but my gut tells me this girl is playing your
daughter.  What clues gave me this intuition?  She obeys daddy, she gets
good grades (obeys teachers) and participates in sports (obeys coaches).  If
this were TRULY a mental illness, her disobedience would be uniform.

Mom (your daughter) needs to start the tomato staking form of discipline
right now.  The caving into demands should STOP, no SUV, no car no nothing
until the daughter starts to respect mom outwardly.  She should not be
allowed to go ANYWHERE without mom (only to school).  Any trips to the mall,
any trips to the skating rink, any trips to the bowling alley, to friends
etc should be accompanied by mom.  Mom can say "when you earn my respect by
respecting me, you can earn some freedom."  

I practiced the tomato staking with my step-daughter.  She was 13 and wore
all black, rebellious, stayed up all night watching MTV, verbally insulting
and totally irresponsible.  I went EVERYWHERE with her.  The cable was
disconnected, the staying up all night ended.  It took about six months and
she began to wear nice clothes, was pleasant, began to get great grades.  It
turned her around.  I explained to her that responsibility and privilege is
like two elevators.  As one goes up so does the other.  She had to prove to
me she could be responsible and then I could give her privileges.  It was a
word picture that was easy to understand.  She graduated high school (only
3rd person in her entire family history to do so) and went onto college.
She married her high school sweetheart, they have two kids and have a great
life.

The nice thing about tomato staking is...no screaming, no spanking, no
grounding.... Just close parental attention.  And it works.

Lori

-----Original Message-----
From: Helen Woodward [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 1:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: CS>Re: silver-digest: Uncontrolable granddaughter

Hi,
I have been on this list forever and make colloidal silver and this list has
so many wise people on it that was wondering what list that I could go to
that would help us know what to do with my granddaughter who will be 16
soon. It is not just being a  teenager since she has always had a bad
character. She makes my daughter miserable and she told her that she didn't
love her or her father any more and that all she wants from them is
financial support. They just bought another house in a upscale neighborhood,
she said she was ashamed to have friends over to her other house. She harped
and harped on this and now it is a suv, her other friends that have turned
16 have a used SUV. It's like she gets in my daughter's ear and repeats the
same thing over and over. She is beautiful and is good in sports and makes
good grades. My daughter teaches at the high school that she goes to.
Last night she called my daughter at 10 PM and wanted her to come and get
her at her friends house and she didn't do this and this morning when she
picked her up she started in on the suv again. They had gone to a store and
granddaughter called her a "dumb but) loud enough for people to hear. This
is so severe that my daughter called me this morning crying and said that
she made her so miserable that she wishes she had never been born. Her
father is a military man and tends to ground her for long periods which
punishes my daughter also to have her around all the time. He wanted to
ground her last week and I got into it and told my daughter that if you are
too strict sometimes it backfires and she begged him not to ground her, I
probably should not have gotten into it. In the halls at the school she told
my daughter that she wasn't going to swim practice to be a life guard and
she told her she wasn't going and she told her she had to and granddaughter
looked at her real mean and said Make Me. Well she did go because her father
picked her up and took her. She doesn't mess with him and says she hates
him. Now this is a normal family in ever other way she has two younger
sisters and my daughter says if it wasn't for them she would think she was a
total failure. Talking to a Psychologist would not be the thing because she
knows it all and would not talk to him, I think she needs medication.  HELP
Sorry for this long post

Mary H.
----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2005 5:51 AM
Subject: silver-digest Digest V2005 #310



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