Hi Ode:

Well said! Your writing style is changing, have you been taking vitamins or something? *LOL*

On an interesting engineering note:
Kind Regards,

Jason


Ode Coyote wrote:

 Microsiemens of conductivity includes a volumetric element that goes
beyond ohms.
Ohms may be useful, but the multimeter is putting it's own electricity
into the electrodes and generating EIS as you measure.  No telling what
that does to the measurement in different concentrations of EIS.

Microsiemens is not PPM...though, 'if' the measurement is taken at the
right time, it can have close to the same 'number' represented within the
average EIS makers range of normal strength.
The  numbers slew off one way and the other before and after that 'normal'
range of , say, 10 to 20 PPM due to varying ratios of dissolved
[conductive] and undissolved [nonconductive] componants.
Those ratios can also vary between batches in the same range made by the
same generator because any little thing in the water can nucleate or
catalyse ionic componants into a non conductive particle.
Using a laser [TE] can give you an "idea" on which way and how far to slew
the meter numbers to make a 'good guess' on what the PPM might actually be.

..not that any two identical meters read the same in any given range when
calibrated outside of that range, except by shear accident, or that
everyone has calibrated eyeballs.

The saving grace is that actual PPM doesn't freekin matter in the face of
no dosing standards at all. [That make any sense, at all]

'Ballpark parking lot' is plenty good enough for an EIS grenade. [If you
can hear the PA system, you're at the ballgame]

Eyeballs and taste buds tell a story.

Humm, weak..glug glug
Ahh, strong!...glug.
Holy cats! Rocket fuel! ... sip... while making funny faces.

..and the crowd roars "Home Run", perking up the tailgaters ears.

Ode

At 09:25 AM 7/6/2005 -0700, you wrote:
You guys are great as usual, thank you.  So I was
after a simple way to measure or estimate or even
compare my end result.  Previously I was holding the
electrodes the same distance apart and placing them in
the brew getting a reading of ohms to help decide the
brew readiness.  I would take from 20-50 ohms with a
clear batch and a bit of fuzz forming to give it the
thumbs up and consider it good and ready.
Would measuring current be better (or both) for making
that kind of crude determination?

--- Ode Coyote <[email protected]> wrote:

So long as the elecrodes are always the same size
and distance apart and
parallel, an ammeter will get repeatability between
batches.
Deduct starting current [highly variable depending
on water quality] from
desired ending current.
That alone won't say much about what the PPM is,
just that it's nearly the
same from batch to batch.
Ode

At 07:37 PM 7/1/2005 -0700, you wrote:
How useful is a multimeter in relation to the
silver
concentration? For ex. a cheap yellow one?  I have
been checking in on this great list as long as I
have
been making and using the Silver Brew and do not
recall seeing this addressed directly.  It seems
obvious that it has, so forgive the redundancy if
so.
I should have inquired long ago as I have been
using
one since I started making my own a couple of years
ago, and use it with time, solution color,
electrode
fuzziness, laser pointer light, and the state of my
active inventory, along with intuition, stages of
the
moon, and reading my tea leaves in urine.  So you
see
I have such a wide array of inaccurate measures I
assume that the sum or average of these absolutely
obligates perfection.



--- Tad Winiecki <[email protected]> wrote:

---------------Max Sanders wrote---------------
I have 2 daughters in Costa Rica (tropics) and
one
especially is prone to these infections.  Does
anyone
have a suggestion for a cranberry substitute
that
may
be available in Costa Rica/tropics?  They have
CS
in
limited quantity and use it as well as GSE.

Maz
Here is a list of herbs for Cystitis from
"Energetics of Western Herbs",
Peter Holmes-
Agrimony
Bearberry
Birch
Blackberry
Caraway seed
Celery seed
Chicory
Cleavers
Grapevine
Lavender oil
Meadowsweet
Melilot
Mint
Parsley seed
Pasque flower
Pipsissewa
Ribwort plantain
Rosemary
Sarsaparilla
Shepherd's purse
Thyme oil
Veronica
Wood Betony

Also a formula for Kidney Cleanse Detox Tea-

In blender put equal amounts of:

Ground Juniper berries
Cornsilk
Uva Ursi leaves
Parsley root and leaf
Carrot tops
Dandelion leaf
Horsetail herbs
Goldenrod flower tops
Orange peel
Peppermint leaf
Hydrangea root
Gravel root
Marshmallow root

Blend and use to make detox tea.

Store in glass jar out of light.

Dosage:
2 cups of the tea consumed 15 minutes after doing
your Liver/Gall
Bladder Flush. It can also be drunk at any other
time during the day, as
many cups as desired.
Put 1 tablespoon (medium) or 2 tablespoons
(strong)
of this tea into 20
ounces of distilled water. Be sure to use only
stainless steel or glass
cookware. Let the tea sit in the water overnight.
In
the morning heat up
to a boil, reduce heat and let simmer for 15
minutes. Strain the herbs,
do not discard them, let cool a bit but use hot.
Put
the used herbs back
into the pot, add 1 tablespoon of fresh herbs and
20
ounces of pure
water. Let sit overnight and repeat whole process
again. Keep adding new
herbs to old ones for three days, then discard
all
herbs and start over.

Hope this helps,I don't know if they are
available
in Costa Rica, there
would be a similar list of tropical plants that
would work.  Nancy



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