Thanks for explaining. What would be the best device to get so that I can try 
to make some? I had heard of a device created or sold under Bob Beck? Is that 
any good?
Paula
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Ode Coyote 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 10:41 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Question about CS


  CS in any form was never part of any official pharmacopeia as they were not 
'official' till after CS fell out of use, therefore, it cannot be 
"grandfathered" as a drug.
  Sellers of Mild Silver Protein are under the same sales claim constraints 
that everyone else is.
  When MSP sellers make what 'appear' to be claims, it's a matter of 
association with a misunderstanding of history by the reader, not an actual 
claim.
  Doctors used to use cocaine for all sorts of things too, "then", the FDA 
started classifying things around 1930 or so.
  Guess what? Cocaine isn't Grandfathered as a drug to treat depression or 
anything else, though it was used as a local anesthetic by dentists till the 
70s or 80s. Drilling pain isn't a disease. Coke can still be used for that, but 
it got stolen a lot and there are other ways.

  I would be very hard to make paint or breathing paint fumes illegal. But it 
is illegal to purposefully breathe paint fumes to get stoned or sell paint as a 
"drug". [Red paint cures the blues?]
  It would similarly be very difficult to make the "element" silver illegal. 
They'd have to seize every coin and or arrest people who got their coins wet. 
Try making and enforcing laws against swallowing a coin!
  The very definition of colloidal silver is so far 'out to lunch' broad, 
'they' can't even figure out what they're talking about.
  There aren't any laws that say a 'supplement' has to add or subtract anything 
valid. Dirt is a mineral supplement. Calcium supplement ads are phrased 'For 
strong bones'..no mention that bones were weak or that the supplement will do 
anything to make either weak OR strong bones stronger. If it's a mineral and 
you eat it, it's a mineral supplement..even if it only supplements the contents 
of your poop.

  MSP does work, but is said to be about 1/50th as effective due to the 
shielding effect of the protein binder/stabilizer presenting much less silver 
surface area.
  There have been a few instances of the "smurf syndrome" amongst people rich 
enough to abuse such high concentrations. [Most bottles have warnings on the 
label. Some say "MSP" in fine print, some don't.]
  If correct, That means that 500 PPM MSP has about the same effectiveness per 
volume as 10 PPM EIS.

  If I recall correctly, MSP comes in an inexpensive powder form and is 
dissolved in water to make what is bought in many stores. That makes it very 
cheap and fast to produce in large quantities...ideal for 'sale'.
  A "salesman" will say ANYTHING to make a sale and is very happy to let you 
believe he's saying something he's not. Salesese and legalese...same 
language...a verbal disease of distorted meanings and misunderstandings left 
standing.
  No, I didn't mislead you. You took what I said to mean something all on your 
own.

  EIS [Electrically Isolated Silver aka what "we" make] is a slow go when done 
right. Time is money.

  Ode

  At 09:40 PM 10/6/2005 -0400, you wrote: 
  >>>>


    So what does that mean to you Ode? That's the CS I've been using. It seems 
to work. I have never tried making it myself. I do think that there is some 
kind of an old "grandfathering in" for CS that was done years ago, and that is 
why CS is not illegal. At least that is what I heard some time ago. 
    Paula

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <mailto:[email protected]>Ode Coyote 
      To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
      Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 5:14 AM
      Subject: Re: CS>Question about CS

      
<http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr29/cpr_29.html>http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/cpr29/cpr_29.html
      Product Description


      Date: 
      6 Jun 2004
      Manufacturer: 
      Herbal Healer Academy
      Product Name: 
      Colloidal Silver
      Product Type: 
      Silver Protein [aka MSP, but no mention of that on the HHA website, IOW 
"mis-labeled"]
      Concentration: 
      500 ppm
      Container Size: 
      2 oz.
      Container Material: 
      Glass - Amber 
      Notes:

      Measured total silver is 132% of labeled value. [660 ppm]

      Laboratory analysis performed by the Colloidal Science Laboratory [Frank 
Key]

      1.796 micron peak [some portion may be ".002 micron size" Average 
somewhere around .05 microns?]
      "Our Colloidal Silver 500 ppm is a pharmaceutical grade" [there is such a 
thing as a Pharm grade of sonmething that Pharms don't carry, make or even 
approve of?]

      Ode





      At 07:06 AM 10/5/2005 -0400, you wrote: 
      >>>>


        Herbal Healer Academy sells CS that is 500 ppm. I have some and have 
been using it. It is quite pricey.
        Paula

          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
          To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] 
          Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 10:48 AM
          Subject: CS>Question about CS

          To All: 

          Just joined and I have a question about CS. I found a website that 
states they sell 100ppm CS. I thought, CS only went up to 18 or 20 ppm. Is this 
website a hoax about the level of ppm in their AC CS? 

          Thanks for all information. 

          Sincerely, 
          Debbie 


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