Yes, I noted that from a quick scan of the Teflon page I found.  Posgene,
not Saran is what is emitted from Teflon.   Thank you for the correction.

Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Aluminum cookware

I can't find the formula for saran gas. If you try to find it, don't confuse
it with polyvinylidene chloride, which is Saran wrap.

There are a number of sites on the breakdown of teflon such as
http://ecomall.com/greenshopping/teflon.htm

It is reported to break down to a chemical warfare agent known as PFIB, and
a
chemical analog of the WWII nerve gas phosgene, which is NOT saran gas..

If you search for both "teflon breakdown" and "saran gas" you will find only
3
or so web pages that have both, and none of those indicate any relation
between teflon breakdown products and saran gas.

Marshall

Ernie Patai wrote:

> Is there any information out "there" to support this claim?
> Not to have doubt, I'm just very curious.
>
> E,
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Holmes [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 6:23 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: CS>Aluminum cookware
>
> I do not use Teflon.  My understanding is that when it is heated very hot,
> it breaks down to yield Saran....nerve gas.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sol [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:47 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: CS>Aluminum cookware
>
> Speaking of aluminum cookware, just try to find any. Uncoated with
> teflon, I mean. I am beginning to wonder if some of my problems are from
> nickel leaching from stainless steel, though I'm very carefu, never
> scour the pans, etc. I'd like to get an aluminum pan but can no longer
> find any.
> Most of the anodized ones I've seen all have teflon linings and I'd
> simply rather not use that. I haven't thrown out my pans that do have
> teflon, but I don't really see the need for it in ordinary saucepans.
> And none of it that I've had in any pan ever aged well.
> sol
>
> Jim Holmes wrote:
>
> > My point is that the presence of a large amount of a substance near
> > the surface of the earth does not have a necessary relationship to its
> > toxicity.
> >
> >
> >
> > Iron is very toxic.  When small children eat overdoses of ordinary
> > multiple vitamins, they may die from the iron.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have yet to see an argument regarding aluminum that is convincing
> > one way or the other, but I have not used it for cook wear for years.
> >
> >
> >
>
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