Dr. - you wrote: As long as we make crystal clear CS/EIS, a large part of it will be Nanosilver.
What is EIS? Thank you ----- Original Message ----- From: Terry Chamberlin<mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca> To: silver-list@eskimo.com<mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 9:35 PM Subject: CS>Argyria & nanosilver Recently there were posts between Marshall and Ole Bob concerning what causes argyria. Marshall posted several websites to support the statements he made. I looked over each of them. His points about argyria being caused by ionic and not colloidal silver are examples of the confusion that occurs repeatedly on this list from using words with different definitions. I find a great deal of the discussion here to sometimes be confusing because there have been no agreed-upon definitions of the words we use, different definitions are used than the rest of the scientific world uses, and two people will be talking apples and oranges without knowing it. I regularly see listers using *colloidal* as being different than *ionic*, even though absolutely everything we make is ionic. I would like to see a description of how to make a colloidal silver with electricity in which the silver particles do not have a charge. IONIC means "an atom or group of atoms that have a charge". http://www.ozoneservices.com/glossary/i/ion.htm<http://www.ozoneservices.com/glossary/i/ion.htm> http://herh.ednet.ns.ca/Teachers/FarrellL/AtomicTheoryFAQ.htm#10<http://herh.ednet.ns.ca/Teachers/FarrellL/AtomicTheoryFAQ.htm#10> http://ic-www.arc.nasa.gov/ic/projects/remote-agent/activities/pofo/docs/Propulsion/1-what-is-an-ion.html<http://ic-www.arc.nasa.gov/ic/projects/remote-agent/activities/pofo/docs/Propulsion/1-what-is-an-ion.html> Marshall's claim that only "ionic" silver causes argyria and not "colloidal" silver is based on a specific description of the mechanism of argyria that he accepts as valid. After perusing the sites Marshall posted, I could not find that description. The idea that only ionic silver salts cause argyria after they have reached the capillaries of the skin and are exposed to sunlight (which causes them to darken in color) has a logical sound to it, but it has some difficulties. I so far have not been able to find any medical resource that attributes the formation of argyria to that mechanism. If only silver "ions" cause argyria, how did the European Royalty get argyria from ingesting metallic silver powder? Marshall said, "Can you name any other form of silver besides a salt or compound that can cause argyria and the process by which it could do so?" Well, metallic silver powder is one. One possible explanation is that the stomach's digestive acid converted some of the silver powder to a silver salt. Since all ingested silver must pass through the stomach and its digestive acid bath (which apparently turns it into a silver salt), why would "ionic" silver (which is all that we make) be specified as the causative factor? If stomach acid does not convert metallic/colloidal silver into a salt form, how explain the argyria from drinking silver powder? And it completely begs the question of cases of argyria caused by inhaling silver powder, or applying silver compounds to the skin, sinuses and other mucous membranes. The medical establishment doesn't know what actually CAUSES argyria, they only know what happens before it appears (ingesting huge amounts of silver nitrate, etc.). I have not seen a description of the mechanism of argyria that is comprehensive enough to account for all the various ways that argyria is contracted. We still seem to be differentiating between particles of one size and particles of another by calling the one "colloidal" and the other "ionic", when actually, they are all ionic. To make a silver preparation in which the particles are so small that they make no color or have much or any Tyndall is to have particles that are billionths of a meter (nanometer) in size, which is called, accurately, nanosilver. Nanosilver cannot be made with any compounds resulting because the particles would be too large to be nanometer in size. Nanosilver cannot be made with anything but the purest silver and the purest water. Is that not what we do? If you brew a solution long enough to cause a yellow or gold color, the solution is still pure, but the particles are not nanometer in size. Nanosilver is, by definition, a pure silver preparation with silver particles measured in nanometers. It must be pure to even be made. As long as we make crystal clear CS/EIS, a large part of it will be Nanosilver. There is no evidence whatsoever that it is even possible to cause argyria from any amount or any application of Nanosilver. Nanosilver is not affected by heat, cold, sunlight, magnetism, etc., and is the most effective form of silver for combating pathogens, according to Dr. Robert H. Demling. www.cesil.com/leaderforchemist/articoli/inglese/7demlinging/7demlinging.htm<http://www.cesil.com/leaderforchemist/articoli/inglese/7demlinging/7demlinging.htm> Terry Chamberlin __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca<http://autos.yahoo.ca/> -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. 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