What is the overall result of adding sodium hydrogen carbonate to .4 PPM TDS
distilled and then using that water to make CS? 

Jim 

-----Original Message-----
From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 11:17 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Adding bicarb of soda to water for brewing

Ignore this message, all the reactions are not thermodynamically possible.
According to those more knowledeable than I on this what you would end up
with
would be CO2 continuing to exist in the water, both as CO3-- and HCO3-, with
no
evolution of CO2 at all.  Nice idea, but unworkable.

Marshall

Marshall Dudley wrote:

> Adding a very small amount of baking soda to distilled water that has
picked up
> some CO2 and formed carbonic acid is very interesting to analyze.
>
> CO2 + H2O ->  H2CO3  or carbonic acid
> NaHCO3 + H2CO3 -> NaOH +  2CO2 + H2O
>
> If you don't add enough bicarb to neutralize all the carbonic acid, then
you
> can get this reaction as well:
>
> 2NaOH + H2CO3 = Na2CO3 + 2H2O
>
> but then sodium carbonate should react with carbonic acid as well
producing:
>
> Na2CO3 + H2CO3 -> 2NaOH + 2CO2
>
> Which puts us right back to the Sodium Hydroxide again.
>
> So unless I am mistaken, the smallest pinch possible of baking soda (or
lye)
> would neutralize 100% of the carbonic acid in distilled water that has
absorbed
> CO2, and as long as no more is added than is necessary to cause all the
CO2 to
> be released, the effect will be a DECREASE in carbonate, not an increase.
The
> sodium hydroxide acts as a catalyst to release CO2.  I have put this
question
> to some chemists for confirmation and should have a reply shortly.
>
> This appears to be a very interesting topic that needs more study.
>
> Marshall
>
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