"What would be the point?" What are you suggesting Vince? That only
ionic silver is effective and that particles are useless? That could be
true, I dont know. But I just feel I'm in the dark about what happens
above 30uS. Up til that point my EC meter gives me some idea what the
ppm is, and numerous tests have have shown the particle content at this
point in clear CS is about 10%. But above that point the EC is useless
because the conductivity stalls. It might even go backwards. But the
generator is still going. So whats happening to the particle ppm from
that point onwards? When we go out of the comfort zone of making clear,
clean 15ppm CS, what are we making? When the CS starts to look a bit
cloudy what proportion of these particles are pure silver and what
proportion are compounds. How big are these particles? Or more
importantly, how many small particles are there in amongst the big ones.
Can you achieve a higher colloidal ppm with small particles than you can
with big particles. Whats the ionic/particle ratio. Maybe its 50/50. As
I said. All the published analysis has been done on good CS. No-one
analyses the so-called crap. This type of CS doesnt seem to get
discussed much, probably because no-one except Frank Key has the
facilities to really test it. Maybe I wouldnt drink it but it could be
great topically.
David
(Vince)
1,000,000 ppm would be the max particle ppm. It would be one particle
of pure silver with no water or anything else. It would result from
putting pure solid silver in a container with no other substance. It
would not be useful for our bodies.
<>On a much more serious note: what would be the point of increasing
silver content by increasing particles and particle size?
(David)
According to various lab tests on commercial and home-made CS, most
electrically made CS is in the 10 to 25 TOTAL ppm range. TOTAL ppm is
the sum of the IONIC (or dissolved) silver (roughly measurable with a
TDS or EC meter) and the PARTICLE (or colloidal) silver thats visible
with a laser but not measurable with any meter.
<>The proportion of ionic to particle ppm is usually about 90% ionic to
10% particle give or take 5%.
<>But most of these tests have been done on nice clear CS because thats
the stuff we are happy to drink and we can make it repeatedly without
too much trouble.
<><>(At around $700 for a full analysis with a particle size report its
understandable that someone is only going to get a report on a product
they can reliably reproduce). But this seems to leave a gap in whats
known about the actual maximum TOTAL ppm thats possible with, for
example, a home brew system. If we ignore aspects such as color and
light sensitivity, what TOTAL ppm can we really achieve? The typical
maximum IONIC ppm for a clear brew seems to be about 30. I understand
theres a solubility limit involved here so its not something that can be
played around with a whole lot. But can the particle PPM be raised by much?
<>I believe that once the ionic max is reached, the brew looses clarity
and any additional dissolved ions immediately form compounds and either
become increasingly large, or increasingly more abundant, colloids.
<>So my question is, whats the maximum colloidal PARTICLE ppm thats
possible over and above the ionic ppm? Is there a physical limit for
that too?
David
