Hi Max,

I think the far infrared saunas use the same elements that are available from 
this company " http://www.infraredheaters.com/
I use the pet heaters becaues they are easiest to install. there are spec 
sheets for them all that shows what range in the Infrared they cover. I believe 
the pet heaters where between 2 and 10 microns.




Take care,
 V


> I have been reading this thread with a geat deal of interest as I also
> desire to use FIR.  But as below...what bulbs are you using here?  4,
> 150W what?  I have looked at the products available as saunas or lamps,
> but I was unsure how to or what to obtain for the source FIR generation
> to build that fits my needs and budget.  

> What do the far infrared saunas use? 

>  Are these bulbs (far infrared) readily available?  And are the infrared
> "reptile" bulbs, as someone cleverly put in use,  generating far infrared?

> radishes,
> Maz

> V <[email protected]> wrote: Hi Marshall,

> Yes you need that much I use 4 of the 150 watt ones and it is jsut
> enough. the distance you are away from them has a lot to do with it. if
> you are right up near them they get very warm but when they are 2 feet
> away they are very pleasant and comfertable for long periods of time.
> dont confuse them with a 250 watt heat lamp which will burn you up. But
> thats not Far infrared so there is a big difference in these Far
> infgrared heaters as far as wattage required. So I lay under 600 watts
> worth of them and I barely break a sweat. you dont need to sweat much to
> make FIR work in the body. It works even if you dont sweat.




> Take care,
>  V


>> "M. G. Devour" wrote:

>>> Jason asks:
>>> > Are these 150 watt heaters suitable for human use? ... or would one
>>> > truly need a 300 watt far infrared heater?

>>> Two 150's side by side is going to be hard to distinguish from one 300.
>>> 


>> But is 300 watts necessary?  That is a heck of a lot of power to be pumping
>> into one's body, a person normally generates about 100 watts of heat, so
>> that would increase their heat load by 300%.  The body would have to
>> dissipate 4X as much as as normal, and if using it on an extremety could
>> result in overheating or even cooking I would think.


>>> One question worth asking is what kind of electromagnetic field do they
>>> generate? If I put myself in a box with a bunch of these, how bad is
>>> the bombardment?

>> They generate far infrared.  It is similar to the radiation you feel coming
>> off of a hot pan and will contain both far as well as near infrared.  Use
>> of some cotton between it and your body will eliminate the near infrared
>> (that has very little penetrating power), leaving the deep penetration far
>> infrared.

>> Refrigerators are being made with far infrared compartments for meat. They
>> claim that the far infrared increases the nucleic acid in meat, making it
>> maintain it's taste longer.  This could be a hint on what it does in the
>> body as well.  Also there is a paper on pasturization using far infrared,
>> which might mean it is capable of killing pathogens in the body as well:

>> TI Far-infrared irradiation effect on pasteurization of bacteria on or
>>  within wet-solid medium
>> AU Hashimoto, Atsushi; Igarashi, Hideo; Shimizu, Masaru
>> AF Tokyo Univ of Agriculture & Technology
>> AC Tokyo
>> AY Jpn
>> SE J Chem Eng Jpn
>> ST Journal of Chemical Engineering of Japan
>> SN 0021-9592
>> CN JCEJAQ
>> IG 0078972 ISL n 6 SD Dec VOL v 25 YR 1992
>> AT (Author abstract) NR 9 Refs AB
>> The present purpose is to study the influence of far-infrared
>> irradiation on pasteurization of Escherichia coli and Staphylococcus
>> aureus on or within a model for wet-solid food. Agar medium was used
>> as the food model. By determining the thermal resistances of the test
>> bacteria, the pasteurization effect of far-infrared irradiation
>> (radiative heating) was compared with that of hot-air heating
>> (a conventional method) from the viewpoint of thermal death kinetics.
>> It was found experimentally that far-infrared irradiation is more
>> effective than hot-air heating for the test bacteria on the agar-plate.

>> More information on FIR can be found here:
>> http://www.chimachine4u.com/fir.html


>> Marshall



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