I follow your logic too.
More apt perhaps...especially when using automatic polarity switching, the term "power factor" comes to mind. Power factor? ...well... I've heard of it, seen it on charts and "grasp" [at] the concept up to where it turns the calculus corner.
[ The meter tells me it's there but not its name ]
Power factor is expressed in terms of watts?   [ Like, watt the heck!!?? :-)

I'm one of those 'seat of the pants' people. I've hopped into a lot of rides looking for a comfortable one. I've quenched a fire on more than one molten transformer with a big "Nope...That ain't it" LOL
[PS  unplug it first ]

Or is that, once you figure out about the watts, then it's all about the hows? That's watt electronics design engineers are for. [Draw me something that does this and I'll build it for a crash test drive. ]

..never stop test driving and chasing watts.

For the newbies...an ode:
Ten years ago, NOBODY knew anything about "how" to make EIS / CS other than it could be done.
 There simply wasn't anything to look up and no one to ask.
Everyone walks a path a little differently and everyone eventually gets somewhere if they keep walking.

 The task is that of the wonderer. [Who bumps the ol head a lot]
It's the wanderer that finds new paths. [and stubs the toes a lot]

Every newbie is a potential innovator "because" he/she DOESN'T know what they're doing...and knows it. An expert is a newbie that quit wondering and sat down. [adding salt to the water for a few decades?]

Think about this: Most "laboratories" don't know how to analyze EIS. They have no idea what it is.
 A CS newbie, at least, has an idea.

When no one knows watt a final destination might be, everyone who travels is a crash test dumb ass.
Being igner'nt is just part of the deal.

Have you ever cooked and eaten a weiner by sticking the bare ends of an extension cord into it and plugging it in to the wall ?
I'll have a hot dog with Ohm slaw....
[PS, unpupulug it firrrrrrzzzzt...or the mustard goes on in a wavy oscilloscope like pattern.]

ode  [Amply stated:  Hey!  Watt the wiggling volt currently happened here! ]


At 09:16 AM 4/16/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Morning Ode,

I follow your thinking and logic.

>>At 08:09 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote:


If it's a constant voltage unit: The first hour you might get 1 to 10 PPM, the next, from 10 to 50 PPM..all depending where on the electrical current acceleration curve you started, as set by the initial water quality where a mere 1/2 microsiemens difference in starting conductivity between batches makes all that difference in PPM and the time it takes to get there.

A year or two ago, I tried to introduce another unit that is never mentioned.
It was the "Wattage Factor".

After all, we don't measure electrical work in current or PPM. I think your complete message does in fact relate to the wattage dissipated or used in the process.

Most everyone seemed to want to ignore the unit of Watts.

Possibly you or one more person did make a comment of two that indicated my thinking had some merit.

I suppose the reason that most wanted to forget watts, is the fact that the process is already beyond the understanding of the non technical.

With this in mind, the non technical should forget all the technical terms and learn a non technical process that relates to vision, taste, color, and a few other factors.

I use a simple constant voltage unit that operates at 52 Volts DC. The people that use the intelligent generators are ahead of the game and need not know any of the technicalities.

As I learned when making wine years ago, there are two ways to do it.
One is by the "Seat of the Pants",  the other is by the book.

Could making CS be like this?

I see many messages by the new people that indicate they are genuinely confused.

Basically, we are talking about making a technical process, ....... NON technical.

I think your statements above relate to the Power used in the process. As you said, this instantaneous factor will be changing as the conductivity or the resistive media changes.

Wayne







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