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> On Aug 31, 2016, at 03:30, Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
>> On 2016-08-31 04:43, Cory Smelosky wrote:
>> 4.5 exhibits the same "now it's suddenly in DEQNA" mode behaviour.
> 
> Well, then I retract my guess. By 4.5 I would expect the code to handle a 
> DELQA natively. Ragge also posted the source code for 4.5, which clearly 
> states that it should handle the DELQA...

Yeah - I'm very confused by that!

> 
>> (it also panic()s every first boot after first starting the emulator)
> 
> Huh. That really do sound like a bug. Since it don't happen on real hardware 
> I would guess a simh issue. What kind of VAX are you emulating, by the way? 
> The 3900?

Yup - 3900. It didn't occur to me until now it might not be coincidence it 
panics with a segfault right after probing the network card...I wasn't noticing 
any network issues until now though I guess.

> 
>    Johnny
> 
>> 
>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016, at 08:04, Clem Cole wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 6:38 AM, Johnny Billquist <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Not sure there are any bugs here. Ultrix might just change it to run in 
>>>> DEQNA mode. Maybe because it didnät have a driver for running it in DELQA 
>>>> mode in 4.0? Just guessing here, but it don't look to me as if there 
>>>> actually is a bug anywhere.
>>> 
>>> I've long since forgotten the details.    The 4.5 SPD says it should work 
>>> (modulo firmware - which I suspect simh is assuming that).   Johnny is 
>>> probably right.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Cory: Is there a reason you are running 4.0 not not something later than 
>>> 4.4.   There a ton of bugs fixed in the 4.3/4.4 development.  The Vax has 
>>> sort of been forgotten by the Ultrix/Tru64 teams in favor of the PMAX and 
>>> the Alpha;  thus entropy had set in on the Vax code.   Even though 4.3 was 
>>> not an officially bug release, it had more bug fixes in that any previous 
>>> one, because a number of just got sick of dealing with it and there was a 
>>> 3-4 week development hiatus where we just cleaned up things.  IIRC this was 
>>> particularly true for the networking stack, because we were heaving 
>>> pathworks development then and the Pathworks stack kept turning up small 
>>> boundary conditions in the Unix side.
>>> 
>>> Anyway -- if you are going to run Ultrix, I highly recommend 4.5 - which 
>>> was really the most stable of the all the Ultrix releases.  For instance, 
>>> the SCSI stack is (finally) common with Tru64, as we back ported Fred's 
>>> Alpha stack to the Vax and PMAX.   As a result it will cover a lot more 
>>> devices.   I seem to remember we did some similar things in the Network 
>>> code too, but again I've forgotten (I was worrying about TruClusters at 
>>> that time but would occasionally consult to the Ultrix folks).
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