On 2016-09-01 14:20, Hittner, David T (IS) wrote:
FWIW, A dated comment from someone at Digital indicating that Ultrix 4.3 treats 
DELQA and DELQA-Plus as DEQNA, and it is unlikely to ever change.
http://www.verycomputer.com/7_50c10d446aeab2b0_1.htm

I also see other posts showing Ultrix 4.5 also running in DEQNA-LOCK mode. 
Maybe Ultrix was never upgraded to use the DELQA and DELQA-Plus enhancements.

Well, as others pointed out, the normal operation/programming of the DEQNA and DELQA are the same.

The DELQA-PLUS is a different story. But that's not what we're dealing with here.

So, it really works pretty much the same no matter if it is a DEQNA or DELQA. The differences have more to do with some built-in MOP handling in the DELQA, along with the ability to perform network booting, which the DEQNA cannot. Also some watchdog functionality.

So yes, I would indeed expect that Ultrix would treat the DEQNA and DELQA the same. And if it don't have a driver for the DELQA-PLUS, it can run that one in normal DELQA mode as well. The DELQA-PLUS mode is better/more efficient, but that is the only one with a different programming model.

        Johnny


Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Simh [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cory Smelosky
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 10:37 PM
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: EXT :Re: [Simh] Ultrix 4.0 and DEQNA-LOCK

On Wed, 31 Aug 2016, Johnny Billquist wrote:

Hi.

On 2016-08-31 17:40, Cory Smelosky wrote:

Cory, could you post the output from showing the device in simh?
I wonder if there might be some confusion about how to turn off lock
mode. I've never even tried modifying that. By default, I would
assume it would be correctly configured, meaning it should work
right if you don't try to "fix it".

I am doing SET DEQNALOCK to OFF, and SHOW XQ (in my initial posting
shows that IIRC) with it in DELQA mode, and later on after probing
and initialising it, despite DEQNALOCK set to OFF and showing as OFF,
SHOW XQ shows it has reverted to being in DEQNA mode.

No. You initial posting showed the dmesg output, but not the simh
input or output, unless I'm very confused.

        Johnny


set xq en
set xq deqnalock=off
set xq type=delqa
at xq vde:/tmp/vde

(BOOT/R5:0 DUA0
Simulation stopped, PC: 2004CBD9 (CMPW (R5)+,28(SP))
sim> show xq
XQ      address=20001920-2000192F, no vector, MAC=08:00:2B:6D:9C:95
         type=DELQA, polling=disabled, sanity=OFF
         throttle=disabled, DEQNALock=OFF, leds=(ON,ON,ON)
         attached to vde:/tmp/vde

sim> c
[...]
qe0: DEC DELQA Ethernet Interface DEQNA-lock Mode, hardware address
08:00:2b:6d:9c:95
dz0 at uba0 csr 160100 vec 300, ipl 17
dz1 at uba0 csr 160110 vec 310, ipl 17
dz2 at uba0 csr 160120 vec 320, ipl 17
dz3 at uba0 csr 160130 vec 330, ipl 17

Simulation stopped, PC: 80003551 (BEQL 800034F0)
sim> show xq
XQ      address=20001920-2000192F, vector=3F4*, MAC=08:00:2B:6D:9C:95
         type=DELQA, mode=DEQNA, polling=disabled, sanity=OFF
         throttle=disabled, DEQNALock=OFF, leds=(ON,ON,ON)
         attached to vde:/tmp/vde

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